What would be your Lightsaber, Form and Affiliation?

Started by The_Tempest3 pages

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Oh wow, I posted my answer based on personal preference on a thread asking for such an answer. Ooooooh! I've really dug myself into a hole on this one!

How do you turn everything into a way to be condescending Temp?

Nah, it's not in the way you think. It has less to do with Bane than it does your general taste in evil Mary Sues. You say you'd want to be a Sith, which is strange because Sith are comprised of psychopaths and morons. You also want to maximize Vaapad, the deadliest and most powerful form... And supplement it with an impenetrable defense.

Other than your choice of faction, it's smart.

Sith Lord
Almost pure Makashi with only light traces of other styles.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Technically, if you master Niman and lightsaber combat in general, you have amazing fighting prowess and no real deficiencies - you technically are strong in all areas of lightsaber combat.

Wasn't that Niman has no weaknesses but also no strengths? That doesn't automatically make you good in all areas...

Sith: Single red lightsaber or lightsaber pike with Juyo.
Jedi: Single green lightsaber, a Djem So-Ataru hybrid.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Wasn't that Niman has no weaknesses but also no strengths? That doesn't automatically make you good in all areas...

Yes, but if you master it (or lightsaber combat in general), you are good at all areas, lol.

I don't think People would spend over ten years mastering it if it was shit...

Can't we just say Niman is like low-key way of mastering all of the forms in a nutshell?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Yes, but if you master it (or lightsaber combat in general), you are good at all areas, lol.

Yeah sure, depends on your interpretation of 'good'. You will never be as good in certain areas like Djem So's in strength based fighting or Soresu's defense but Niman is kind of the middle way.

Jedi= green or just pure white saber, and I would specialize in djem so mainly, but secondly soresu, makashi, vaapad, ataru in that order

sith= red and yellow saber, so it looks like fire, and i would specialize in vaapad mainly, but secondly ataru, makashi, djem so, and shii-cho

Originally posted by Kurk
Can't we just say Niman is like low-key way of mastering all of the forms in a nutshell?

No, actually. Niman is the easiest of the 7 forms to master; and no, mastering it doesn't make you exceptional in any area in particular, the technique just doesn't have exploitable weaknesses.

Easiest to master? I'm pretty sure it was the hardest or at least it took the longest to master.

It's stated to be the opposite by Drallig, iirc. Something along the lines of Niman taking 10 years for the average Jedi to master, and others taking longer than that.

@Nova: You commented about Niman being very powerful at its peak, and then used an incredibly vague quote to justify it (every form mastered gives amazing Lightsaber skill)

Do you have any sources? Normally I'd take your word for it, but Dralig actually notes that masters of Niman find it "insufficient"...

Here's what Drallig says.

How long can you expect to study Form VI before you master it? If you dedicated yourself only to Form VI, you will study for at least ten years.

- Taken from JvS

Is Form VI the most worthy of study? No, but in general it is the most practical.

- Same

Here's what the JP says.

Form VI is the most balanced of all styles. It is not as precise as Form 2, as defensive as Form 3, as kinetic as Form IV, nor as demanding as Form V, but Form VI draws from all styles to create a hybrid form marked for its practicality.

- Taken from Jedi Path

Many battlemasters do not consider Niman sufficiently demanding.

- Same

There's nothing said about it being insufficient other than it's not demanding.

@Selenial - It's not vague because that was from the same section that described each of the lightsaber forms. To go out of its way to specifically mention amazing fighting skill in the case of having mastered Niman would be utterly redundant if it was the case for each of the forms. The section was entirely about what distinguished one form from another.

Jedi Sentinel (I don't need to be famous for what I do)
I would use a combination of Ataru and Niman, complemented by Soresu. Since Ataru lets the body open to attack, master Soresu would be perfect. And since Ataru isn't good for fighting against multiple enemies, I would mix it up with Niman, or maybe Shii-Cho.

One standard lightsaber would be my choice.
I'd like to blend a few styles, combine Shien for offense, Soresu for defense, and Niman so I could also build up Force energy to use in Force attacks.

What I understand about Niman is that it's the most loaded toolbox of all the lightsaber forms. In the hands of a passive Jedi, accustomed to peacekeeping and diplomacy you'll get wasted pretty quick on a battlefield or against a specialist in practically any of the other forms. But for someone with excellent combat intuition and a knack for innovative combos it can be every bit as formidable as Makashi, Ataru or Djem So. In the hands of a Niman specialist who eschews balance in favor of aggression it can be just as lethal as Juyo. Personally, I think practitioners who can actually utilize Form VI to it's full potential are few and far between because too much of it's effectiveness depends on the amount of innate skills you can bring to the discipline. Better to master a rote form that tries to have an answer for any situation and minimize hybridization to focus strengths instead of spreading yourself too thin. Like Djem So with a bit of Sokan to address the mobility issues.