Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Like it or not, on average Surfer fails to react to shit that Spider-Man literally sees in slow-motion.
Show me any instance where Spiderman moves within the timeframe of a nanosecond.
Just one instance.
Go ahead.
And it won't change any time soon...
Maybe on whatever alien world you live on but this is phucking America.
Originally posted by Sharivan
I am not the one trying to say the Silver Surfer is slower than freaking Spiderman.Pictured: Apparently slower than Spiderman.
You sound like one of those people who would unironically bring up that time Norrin was beaten by a bunch of Mexicans, and put in chains.
As these instances are completely retarded, and ignore everything that the Silver Surfer has ever accomplished.
So, a technicality is more important to you than coming up with an actual argument?
Good to know.
This does not change how idiotic it was.
If you're referring to the Fear Eater it doesn't just do illusions. It takes a person's fear, and physically manifests them.
Silver Surfer was actually transported to earth, had to break out of a barrier, and those shackles. That was part of overcoming the Fear Eater, and if he didn't do that he would have died.
The "illusions" of a Fear Eater can actually hurt and destroy you. Daredevil was the only one not subject to them because he was the "man without fear." So, there was nothing they could manifest.
How does that make this defunct?
Originally posted by Sharivan
Which one the Mexicans or King Thor getting hurt by Wolverine? I thought the latter was an alternate timeline.
Originally posted by Sharivan
If you're referring to the Fear Eater it doesn't just do illusions. It takes a person's fear, and physically manifests them.Silver Surfer was actually transported to earth, had to break out of a barrier, and those shackles. That was part of overcoming the Fear Eater, and if he didn't do that he would have died.
The "illusions" of a Fear Eater can actually hurt and destroy you. Daredevil was the only one not subject to them because he was the "man without fear." So, there was nothing they could manifest.
How does that make this defunct?
Daredevil has a nanosecond feat as well.
http://i.imgur.com/ZpsLYUq.png
And that's more believable than Surfer.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
The fear eater.
So, you're an idiot?
I am curious does this have anything to do with how you were destroyed at CBR? I know you enjoy keeping a grudge for years on end. Which is pathetic considering how inept CBR itself is.
That, and there's your PTSD in regards to every Superman versus Silver Surfer thread. As well as every Superman vs Thor thread.
That was entirely an illusion except being teleported to earth.
No, it wasn't. The way the illusion works is that the person under its influence is still moving around when it happens. They see it, feel it, and can be hurt by it. It can even lead to their death if they do not overcome it.
Just take for example when Captain America was under the influence of a Fear Eater. They're not unconscious when this happens.
The fear eaters later appeared in Dr Strange and it was made clear that they were just creating an illusion.
No, what was made clear was that they were actually deadly and had to be banished to another dimension because if they weren't there would have been corpses everywhere in Manhattan.
Daredevil has a nanosecond feat as well.
I know what you're talking about, and it's not what you think it is. That's processing information not movement within a time-frame. Which is what you're comparing it to now.
http://i.imgur.com/ZpsLYUq.pngAnd that's more believable than Surfer.
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Point me towards where, in this scan, that Daredevil actually even moves. This is a processing feat. Not a reflex feat. He doesn't even actually move at all in this time-frame.
Have you even read this?
Originally posted by Sharivan
So, you're an idiot?
Nice opening statement.
I am curious does this have anything to do with how you were destroyed at CBR?
Destroyed? You sure know how to distort something. I was banned when they couldn't keep up and I destroyed Pendaran.
I know you enjoy keeping a grudge for years on end. Which is pathetic considering how inept CBR itself is.
You are the one to talk.
That, and there's your PTSD in regards to every Superman versus Silver Surfer thread. As well as every Superman vs Thor thread.
I've destroyed more surfer and Thor fanboys than I care to remember boy.
No, it wasn't. The way the illusion works is that the person under its influence is still moving around when it happens. They see it, feel it, and can be hurt by it. It can even lead to their death if they do not overcome it.
Idiot.
Look at all those moving people.
Just take for example when Captain America was under the influence of a Fear Eater. They're not unconscious when this happens.
They are all experiencing the illusion. Just look at the Ragnarok which happened to Thor. And how he turned Thing into normal.
No, what was made clear was that they were actually deadly and had to be banished to another dimension because if they weren't there would have been corpses everywhere in Manhattan.
And that they were simply creating an illusion. You forgot to mention that.
I know what you're talking about, and it's not what you think it is. That's processing information not movement within a time-frame. Which is what you're comparing it to now.
The same thing as Surfer. Surfer was trapped in an illusion. Nothing more.
Point me towards where, in this scan, that Daredevil actually even moves. This is a processing feat. Not a reflex feat. He doesn't even actually move at all in this time-frame.
Point me to the scene where Surfer actually moved in real time and not in an illusion.
Have you even read this?
I've read every surfer appearance kid. Here is one more nanosecond comment.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051181-lmv_vs_anih.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051183-lmv_vs_anih1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051186-lmv_vs_anih2.png
Quasar>Surfer and Gladiator in speed, right?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nice opening statement.
It's better than anything you have said.
Destroyed? You sure know how to distort something. I was banned when they couldn't keep up and I destroyed Pendaran.
As in he took apart all of your arguments, noted what lies and misinterpretations you had, then everyone else on the forum did the same.
Which is sad because you got crushed by a bunch of idiots.
You are the one to talk.
Okay then, provide an example.
Since you know me so well.
]I've destroyed more surfer and Thor fanboys than I care to remember boy.
Now you sound as if you're a redneck. You kiss your sister with that mouth? On second thought, I don't want to know.
Idiot.
Not even original.
Look at all those moving people.
Those people were just being possessed by the Fear Eaters. You do know that's what they have to do before they take advantage of their fears?
The scans you posted here yourself take note of this.
They are all experiencing the illusion. Just look at the Ragnarok which happened to Thor. And how he turned Thing into normal.
Yes, and do you see how they're both in the same exact positions as they were in their respective illusions? The Thing is standing after forcing the Fear Eater out of him. Thor is laying in the same exact position as he was in the illusion.
This proves my point.
Thank you for providing the evidence for me.
And that they were simply creating an illusion. You forgot to mention that.
No, I didn't. I repeatably referred to it as a deadly illusion that they act out, and have to overcome otherwise it can murder them.
This is why I am noting the fact they're not unconscious. They're fighting through it.
The same thing as Surfer. Surfer was trapped in an illusion. Nothing more.
It's not the same thing. The Silver Surfer is actually moving during the illusion. Just like Captain America, and just like the Thing. Thor wasn't because he was on his deathbed in his illusion.
Point me to the scene where Surfer actually moved in real time and not in an illusion.
The illusions were happening in real time, and whenever the rest of the heroes woke up from it they were in the same exact position they were in the illusion. You even posted the scans yourself.
I've read every surfer appearance kid. Here is one more nanosecond comment.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051181-lmv_vs_anih.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051183-lmv_vs_anih1.png
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85165/2051186-lmv_vs_anih2.pngQuasar>Surfer and Gladiator in speed, right?
Thank you for providing yet another instance that shows that all of these characters can react within nanoseconds.
As taken from the last scan there.
"That monster didn't give us a nanosecond's grace."
The context is referring to all of them here.
Not just Quasar.
I was right you don't read the scans you post because you keep giving me all the ammunition I need here.
Originally posted by Sharivan
It's better than anything you have said.
Ooh, should I burn or something?
You have memorized every internet cliche it seems.
As in he took apart all of your arguments, noted what lies and misinterpretations you had, then everyone else on the forum did the same.
Maybe you live in the bizarro world kid. That would explain your inability to read and comprehend simple logic.
Which is sad because you got crushed by a bunch of idiots.
I'm arguing with one right now it seems.
Okay then, provide an example.
"Superboy created an entire pocket universe."
Since you know me so well.
That's the thing. I don't know you and still I know enough about your idiocy.
Now you sound as if you're a redneck. You kiss your sister with that mouth? On second thought, I don't want to know.
That's it? Where are your cliches kid?
Not even original.
I know. I don't want to waste my originality on you.
Those people were just being possessed by the Fear Eaters. You do know that's what they have to do before they take advantage of their fears?
Just like Thor, surfer and Thing were possessed by them? They were making them hallucinate as well.
Gasp!
The scans you posted here yourself take note of this.
Hahaha, the oldest cliche on netz.
Yes, and do you see how they're both in the same exact positions as they were in their respective illusions? The Thing is standing after forcing the Fear Eater out of him. Thor is laying in the same exact position as he was in the illusion.This proves my point.
And how exactly?
Thank you for providing the evidence for me.
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No, I didn't. I repeatably referred to it as a deadly illusion that they act out, and have to overcome otherwise it can murder them.
Yes, its an illusion. As in not real. But somehow the same creature using the same power created illusions for Thor and Thing and real life energy draining shackles for Surfer.
Nice going kid.
This is why I am noting the fact they're not unconscious. They're fighting through it.
Yes, in their mind. Not in reality as the illusion is all in their minds.
It's not the same thing. The Silver Surfer is actually moving during the illusion. Just like Captain America, and just like the Thing. Thor wasn't because he was on his deathbed in his illusion.
It was all an illusion in his mind. Just like the asteroid eater who died of fright after he expelled all his stored air in its lung.
The illusions were happening in real time, and whenever the rest of the heroes woke up from it they were in the same exact position they were in the illusion. You even posted the scans yourself.
Haha, only you can interpret the scans so wrongly. The illusions were all in their minds. That's why Thor calls it a fever dream.
Thank you for providing yet another instance that shows that all of these characters can react within nanoseconds.
Only Quasar did. He drained all of them to create the shield without them even noticing.
As taken from the last scan there."That monster didn't give us a nanosecond's grace."
Yes, the ever faithful hyperbolic statement.
The context is referring to all of them here.Not just Quasar.
You are seriously an idiot. Quasar was the one who drained all of them and created a shield which protected all of them with none of the others even able to react.
I was right you don't read the scans you post because you keep giving me all the ammunition I need here.
facepalm
Did you even read the scans you ****ing goon? Quasar acted and drained all of them because he did not have time to ask for permission.
None of the others could even react to save themselves. That's called speed.
Here, spidey vs an amped silver surfer. Blitzed to shit
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ooh, should I burn or something?
What you should do is go cry to your mother but I am afraid of what your definition of paternal love is.
You might end up doing things I don't want to think about.
You have memorized every internet cliche it seems.
No, these are not cliches. Someone correcting you when you misinterpret something is not a cliche. It's what happens in debate.
Maybe you live in the bizarro world kid. That would explain your inability to read and comprehend simple logic.
That would be you. You should stop projecting your own problems onto others abhilegend. It's not healthy, and a sign of mental instability.
I'm arguing with one right now it seems.
I am not the one who is misinterpreting the very scans they are posting.
"Superboy created an entire pocket universe."
So wait, you're mad over an argument we had years ago and you're trying to say that is an example of me holding a grudge for years when I have never brought that up since?
You're the one who just did that as we speak.
That wasn't what I claimed either. You are omitting the fact I was talking about the fusion of Kon-El and Jon Kent. The energy being that created a pocket dimension and was casually turning people into Green Lanterns?
You're holding a grudge against me over something you can't even remember properly?
That's the thing. I don't know you and still I know enough about your idiocy.
No, that wasn't me being an idiot. That was me explaining in triplicate that you were wrong. That you know hold a grudge against me for years later.
You freaking nutcase.
That's it? Where are your cliches kid?
They're busy telling the local authorities I have a stalker.
I know. I don't want to waste my originality on you.
You say this as if you had any originality to begin with. You have a gross misconception of yourself.
Just like Thor, surfer and Thing were possessed by them? They were making them hallucinate as well.Gasp!
Yes, and your scans clearly show that when a Fear Eater manifests a person's fears they act them out. You have already seen it yourself. Now you're just being willfully ignorant.
Hahaha, the oldest cliche on netz.
It's not a cliche on the internet. You have been corrected so much by others that you think it is. This is going beyond just sad now.
And how exactly?
That they're acting out the illusions, and actually moving as they do inside of them. I have told you already.
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Now you see, what you just did here?
That's an internet cliche. Not giving a proper response, and just saying "lol" or using an emote is the most cliche thing you can do on the internet.
Yes, its an illusion. As in not real. But somehow the same creature using the same power created illusions for Thor and Thing and real life energy draining shackles for Surfer.Nice going kid.
It was in a highly realistic illusion that might as well have been real. That would have killed them if they didn't overcome it. Which led to them actually acting it out, and being in the positions they were when they did so.
I have been clear on this.
Yes, in their mind. Not in reality as the illusion is all in their minds.
Which they act out in the real world, and we see that when they break out of the illusions.
It was all an illusion in his mind. Just like the asteroid eater who died of fright after he expelled all his stored air in its lung.
Why are we even talking about the Asteroid Eater now? The people who die of the Fear Eater do so because of whatever fear they had. Whatever illusion they experienced. You are literally just copying and paraphrasing a summary of what someone else made.
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/marvel_comics_presents_1_silve.shtml
Seriously, word-for-word "expel its air."
Which also made note to show that Silver Surfer was in outer space, and escaping from earth just like he was in the illusion.
Haha, only you can interpret the scans so wrongly. The illusions were all in their minds. That's why Thor calls it a fever dream.
It doesn't matter if it was in their minds. They were acting it out, and it was happening in real time. When they finally broke out of it they were in the same position as they were in the illusion.
Only Quasar did. He drained all of them to create the shield without them even noticing.
You're not understanding what happened there. Quasar is saying they didn't have a nanosecond, and that if they did they could have saved those other people. What Quasar did happened in less than that time.
What he said after that was that if they had a nanosecond they all could have saved them.
Yes, the ever faithful hyperbolic statement.
Nanosecond is not hyperbolic. It is a specific time-frame. It is a billionth of a second. This is like saying 0.03 seconds is hyperbolic.
You are seriously an idiot. Quasar was the one who drained all of them and created a shield which protected all of them with none of the others even able to react.
No, what Quasar is saying if they all had more time they could have saved the others. They however weren't given the nanosecond they needed to do this. This happened in less than that time-frame which they needed.
You see, this is why I question your reading comprehension. You're not even realizing that Quasar is saying he did this in less than a nanosecond.
facepalmDid you even read the scans you ****ing goon?
I did, and Quasar noted that they all could have saved the others if they had a nanosecond.
They didn't. They had less than that.
You're the one not understanding this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway, this is a wrong thread to discuss this. There are a lot of thread discussing Surfer's speed.Bump any and I'll be glad to tear all your arguments to shreds.
Sorry, I am not like you.
I do not dig up and restart threads from a long time ago because of some hilarious trauma suffered over an internet argument of all things.
That would be you.
As made clear by the fact you're still sore over the last argument we had years ago.
Originally posted by Sharivan
Sorry, I am not like you.I do not dig up and restart threads from a long time ago because of some hilarious trauma suffered over an internet argument of all things.
That would be you.
As made clear by the fact you're still sore over the last argument we had years ago.
😬
Nice going Dr Phil. You can always start a new thread as you're so good at posting simply inane things.
Finally someone to fight on CBR's behalf.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And before you cry that Surfer was holding back, here is a explicitly not holding back surfer getting blitzed by Surfer again.-snip-
Okay, you want to play this game.
Since apparently you're incapable of being objective, and don't mind garbage writing in the least bit? You must be fine with this.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't worry, surfer has made a habit of getting blitzed.-snip-
I can't wait for you to argue all of these are PIS.
Superman is obviously incapable of detecting Batman by your own logic.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's obvious from the start.😬
So, you're not even trying to hide the fact you're horribly traumatized over internet arguments and are openly admitting you're an obsessive lunatic?
Your concession is accepted.
Nice going Dr Phil. You can always start a new thread as you're so good at posting simply inane things.
That would be you because I was the one who just explained why you were wrong, and you are not even bothering to understand why.
Finally someone to fight on CBR's behalf.
Straw man.
I have insulted both you and CBR in this argument. I am not doing this for anyone.
Originally posted by Sharivan
Superman is obviously incapable of detecting Batman by your own logic.
It's the Batman. What did you expect?
1. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/28322244/Batman_2016-_002-018.jpg.html
2. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/28322246/Batman_2016-_002-019.jpg.html
3. http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/28322248/Batman_2016-_002-020.jpg.html
