Who do you want to be president?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
A simple fact check would show people most of their statements were false. I don't think they were using the memory of their dead son to push any agenda as it didn't reflect in any polls. You could look at the hurt in their faces which is tough to deny. Still though I don't care if you're left or right, to me soldiers and/or their parents are off limits.

Well I would think if people would want them to be off limits they probably shouldn't be using them to chastise someone running for president. If something shouldn't be talked about then it shouldn't be talked about by anyone.

Originally posted by Surtur
It just scares me people think Hilary is the lesser of two evils. Partly because it's wrong and partly because it just shows how good she is at making fools out of people. The problem is Trump is loud about it, easy to notice his faults. With Hilary you have to actually do at least a little digging.

You don't have to do much digging to point out Hilary's flaws or failures. However, Trump would have had this whole thing in the bag if he had either stopped talking months ago, or come up with more rational policies for his presidency. And even if I think Trump is the lesser of two evils (I still do), he really pisses me off when he messes with the troops and their families. I know he has done a LOT for current troops and VA and that's one of his positives, but this Khan thing is unnerving.

Well I would think if people would want them to be off limits they probably shouldn't be using them to chastise someone running for president. If something shouldn't be talked about then it shouldn't be talked about by anyone.

I think Trump needs to sit down and set the record straight on a few issues, clear some things up. Use examples of when he's been taken out of context by the media or Hilary.

The media is against Trump. He released that fake phone call scandal just to prove Megyn Kelly would find the only other person who would have known about it to make him look stupid. In fact, it's pathetic how much news comedians etc. are still going.

Meanwhile, Hillary ran a campaign against someone who was trying to lose just for more donations (that she and Bernie received) with the entire party backing her, countless corporations that Obama also received funding from and even google is on her side!

Trump is going to build a wall with a train on it, Mexico is going to pay for it. taxes will be cut and jobs will be created.

BELIEVE IT!

Originally posted by Surtur
I think Trump needs to sit down and set the record straight on a few issues, clear some things up. Use examples of when he's been taken out of context by the media or Hilary.

I think that's what everyone wants from him. I doubt he's going to do it but he'll have no choice come debate time.

I'm just still amazed at all the stuff Hilary got wrong in her speech because I would of thought they would have fact checkers of their own to verify the stuff she was saying.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just still amazed at all the stuff Hilary got wrong in her speech because I would of thought they would have fact checkers of their own to verify the stuff she was saying.

She's a walking contradiction. I wasn't surprised at all.

Originally posted by Surtur
He won't actually be able to build a wall though, or deport everyone. He only wants muslims that can't be vetted to not be allowed.

She is a liar, a manipulator, etc. so she isn't any better than Trump. She wants to let all the illegals stay, which isn't any better.

You should see the problem when your only defense is "well she's not any worse than Trump" right? I never said Trump doesn't say stupid shit, but Hilary just flat out lies so much and yet people still try to act like she is superior because she has been in politics for a long time. It just makes it funny because people used to complain Trump could get away with anything, he doesn't hold a candle to Hilary.

The email thing I care about isn't her stupidity involving just..well, being too stupid to follow protocol. It's the leaked emails that bug me, which show us exactly what these people think of the voters and how utterly slimey they are. Then go read the fact checking article about her "epic" speech that some in the media are still praising. That is how zombified people have become regarding her.

Trump lies all the time on stage to his supporters. And I do think Hillary is better. First of all I do think she has been unnecessarily dragged through the mud on things like Benghazi and the emails.

Second, I do think she is smarter then Trump because her policies make some kind of sense and some of them could be good for America. Plus she already has foreign and diplomatic experience. Unlike Trump who just wants to act like a bully to other countries.

First of all I do think she has been unnecessarily dragged through the mud on things like Benghazi and the emails.

Originally posted by Newjak
First of all Trump is still saying is going to build a wall and deport all illegal immigrants. Simply because he won't get it done doesn't make it any less stupid. And Trump had explicitly said he wanted to ban all muslims from entering the country. Which is so silly because of the amount of effort and power it would take for a country to do that.

Trump lies all the time on stage to his supporters. And I do think Hillary is better. First of all I do think she has been unnecessarily dragged through the mud on things like Benghazi and the emails.

Second, I do think she is smarter then Trump because her policies make some kind of sense and some of them could be good for America. Plus she already has foreign and diplomatic experience. Unlike Trump who just wants to act like a bully to other countries.

You see his interview with Stephanopoulos? Hilarious

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You see his interview with Stephanopoulos? Hilarious

I thought this might be a more conceptual question...like, who would you want to be President, but out of anyone? Imo, that's actually a much more interesting discussion. The "Who ya voting for?" questions tends not to produce terribly deep analysis. Most people already have a fairly ingrained sense of what they stand for on major political issues, and a history with one party or another.

On the topic, likely voting for Hillary. I'm damn near libertarian economically. But economics are impossible to predict, and I actually think Presidents are far more impotent than the election cycle would have us believe when it comes to affecting much. The global economy is now a beast beyond any one entity's ability to meaningfully influence (imo). As such, I tend to vote based on social issues, where I'm much more solidly Democrat. Remove the personal bias of the candidates themselves and logic dictates that they have to toe their party line more often than not, so who it is isn't especially meaningful to me. And the area where Presidents have - arguably - the most unchecked power and ability to influence is in foreign policy. Trump's notorious statements that undoubtedly wouldn't play well abroad are indeed cause for concern. I actually don't think he'd wreck the country like some doom-sayers, but I also would prefer not to take chances compared to someone that, frankly, has already done this without burning the place down.

Originally posted by Digi
I thought this might be a more conceptual question...like, who would you want yo be President, but out of anyone? Imo, that's actually a much more interesting discussion. The "Who ya voting for?" questions tends not to produce terribly deep analysis. Most people already have a fairly ingrained sense of what they stand for on major political issues, and a history with one party or another.

Lol.

I did edit my post to include an actual response to your OP.

On my hypothetical OP, Fred Rogers.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Link?

YouTube video

Here u go. Great popcorn material

Originally posted by Sin I AM
YouTube video

Here u go. Great popcorn material

Anyone but Hilary.

Anyone but the 2 jackoffs that got nominated.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Anyone but the 2 jackoffs that got nominated. [/B]

Originally posted by Newjak
First of all Trump is still saying is going to build a wall and deport all illegal immigrants. Simply because he won't get it done doesn't make it any less stupid.

It's stupid because of the cost, etc. If there was a way to cheaply build an EFFECTIVE wall I wouldn't see the problem.

Just like deporting all illegals: if we had an easy affordable way to do it..I would be ALL for it.

And Trump had explicitly said he wanted to ban all muslims from entering the country. Which is so silly because of the amount of effort and power it would take for a country to do that.

Lovely, and Hilary specifically was against gay marriage until she wasn't. Trump clarified what he meant about the Muslim thing, so we can nip that in the butt. But because it's Trump people will beat this dead horse for as long as they can.

Trump lies all the time on stage to his supporters. And I do think Hillary is better. First of all I do think she has been unnecessarily dragged through the mud on things like Benghazi and the emails.

Lol please. Unnecessarily dragged through the mud? No, it was all necessary. She can lie about whatever she wants with zero consequences and you think she shouldn't be dragged through the mud? Please tell me that's a joke. People are tired of her f*cking lies and manipulation. It's not only Benghazi or the fact she is too stupid to follow security protocols. Those are just the icing on the cake.

It's just sad to see people try to act like this person has been treated unfairly when she has gotten away with SO much shit lol.

Second, I do think she is smarter then Trump because her policies make some kind of sense and some of them could be good for America. Plus she already has foreign and diplomatic experience. Unlike Trump who just wants to act like a bully to other countries.

She's more conniving than Trump. She knows how to play the game, and by that I mean making people not notice corruption.

No, Hilary isn't better, just a different kind of bad. She's good at deflection. Like for example: Talk about her corruption? Derr..but but Trumps wife might of copied some sentences from a speech that Michelle Obama gave(which she also might of copied). Or derrr Trump was rude to muslim parents who showed up just to start shit and insult him, so you better look away from Hilary and her shady shit. It's the bright shiny key approach. You know how you can easily distract a baby by jangling your keys? That is what people do for Hilary, and in her situation Donald Trump is her bright shiny set of keys. To which the slow witted people fall for her tricks every single time. It's not Trump who should love the uneducated, but Hilary. The uneducated and/or the uninformed are going to put this toxic woman into the White House.

She was practically for sale as Secretary of State, so obviously we need a president like that because...f*ck if I know.