No? There's proof you never played the game though. 👆
The text makes note of "dozens" in numerous levels of the station. We can conclude it's "hundreds" by virtue of Revan fighting "hundreds" of Sith on Korriban, which is canonically stated, given that the Star Forge gauntlet was designed to be even more dangerous and stalling to Revan by Darth Malak. But, even if we want to play ignorant, let's bring in the Korriban feat into play as well, in which maps of the layout makes it clear that at certain points, they would be attacking Revan from many angles.
Revan having two companions (Canderous Ordo and another) isn't hidden knowledge. It's probably been mentioned on virtually every Star Forge gauntlet post.
Once again, you're debating something you have absolutely no knowledge of. Depressing.
I've told you I've never played the game before so congrats on evidence that you can pile onto my own admission. Also mind posting a layout of the Star Forge then to prove your point?
Nowhere in the quote you provided does it state "dozens on numerous levels of the station." Unless you cut the quote then it seems likely to me that you're assuming that to be the case to fit your prerogative.
And you think I read Star Forge gauntlet posts? Kek.
Yes, and I'm still beating you. I'd imagine that would be highly depressing.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The hell is your definition of beating? Conceding on some points, making note of obvious facts I never denied, and asking basic questions to further understand my arguments?Christ. 👆
But hold on, let me pull up my prima guide.
My definition of beating is proving that your claims were false ( you claiming that Revan faced hundreds of opponents on the SF ). Your assumptions are silly ( you claiming that the Star Forge inhibited Revan to the point he couldn't use offensive force powers when there's no evidence of that and when he has coped just fine on Dark Side nexuses in other instances ). And that Revan didn't even single handedly face these opponents having an entire team to support him through each fight meaning the one solid showing of fighting 4 darksiders wasn't even him fighting them all simultaneously but with the aid of a team distracting and taking on some of the darksiders themselves.
The Star Forge is the ancient alien space station created by the Rakatas. The Sith have harnessed the power of the Star Forge (in essence a giant factory powered by the white dwarf sun that is beneath it). Malak’s invincible armada surrounds the station, an almost infinite fleet churned out by the Star Forge. You appear inside the Star Forge just as the Republic and Jedi attack it. You land on the deck of the ship while Jedi and Sith are locked in combat all around, and you must find Malak and defeat him. When the Star Forge is destroyed, you become either a great Republic hero or the new Sith Master and scourge of the galaxy. For this to occur, you must battle down three gigantic decks to the Star Forge itself, attack the forge’s own construction pits, and finally face down Malak in melee combat for the last time.Area Overview 1: Deck 1 This series of narrow winding walkways leads to one huge ledge overlooking the construction of the Sith fleet itself. Your progress is hampered by literally dozens of Sith soldiers, elites, heavy weapons, Sith apprentices, and Dark Jedi. Make sure you secure one area completely before attempting to breach the next. Remember to enter the control room and switch off the turrets before you move to enter the elevator to Deck 2.
Area Overview 2: Deck 2 Like the other deck, this is a series of narrow winding walkways leading to one huge ledge overlooking the construction of the Sith fleet itself. Your progress is hampered by literally dozens of Sith soldiers, elites, heavy weapons, Sith apprentices, and Dark Jedi. Continue your battle until you reach the door to the command center.
Area Overview 3: Command Center This area holds the source of power on this station, the Star Forge itself, and it’s teeming with Dark Jedi and Malak’s apprentices. When you enter the Star Forge, you are thrown into battle against specific adversaries, and then Malak attempts to destroy you by launching a droid production sequence in the construction pits area of the center. You must solve this conundrum, then move directly to the factory itself.
Area Overview 4: Factory This is the final location and is the main hive-center for activity on the station. Hooked up to stasis fields are eight Jedi that Malak uses to increase his power as he uses it. This is one gigantic chamber with two levels that you cannot leave until either you or Malak lie beaten.
👆 And the "narrow passageways" they're referring to are these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qulJf1v0uJM&t=9m25s, which is still pretty large and can certainly hold like five Sith at the same time. And then, as the text points out and the game shows, there is areas of large space where they attack you from multiple fronts as well. 👆
Originally posted by Syndicate
My definition of beating is proving that your claims were false ( you claiming that Revan faced hundreds of opponents on the SF ). Your assumptions are silly ( you claiming that the Star Forge inhibited Revan to the point he couldn't use offensive force powers when there's no evidence of that and when he has coped just fine on Dark Side nexuses in other instances ). And that Revan didn't even single handedly face these opponents having an entire team to support him through each fight meaning the one solid showing of fighting 4 darksiders wasn't even him fighting them all simultaneously but with the aid of a team distracting and taking on some of the darksiders themselves.
ffs man, get some commas and periods in there.
Originally posted by Syndicate
My definition of beating is proving that your claims were false ( you claiming that Revan faced hundreds of opponents on the SF ).
Even if we want to play retarded, then fine, just change Korriban to the Star Forge.
My point stands. 😬
Your assumptions are silly ( you claiming that the Star Forge inhibited Revan to the point he couldn't use offensive force powers when there's no evidence of that and when he has coped just fine on Dark Side nexuses in other instances ).
And that Revan didn't even single handedly face these opponents having an entire team to support him through each fight
It's fine to be retarded. But being a condescending retard is annoying.
Just ask Beni. He has a lot of experience in that field.
😂
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
👆 And the "narrow passageways" they're referring to are these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qulJf1v0uJM&t=9m25s, which is still pretty large and can certainly hold like five Sith at the same time. And then, as the text points out and the game shows, there is areas of large space where they attack you from multiple fronts as well. 👆
Dozens of opponents on the first two floors and the third floor with an unspecified number of opponents doesn't equate to hundreds.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You're really going to argue Revan fought more Sith on Korriban than on the Star Forge?Even if we want to play retarded, then fine, just change Korriban to the Star Forge.
My point stands. 😬
An "assumption" you have yet to refute.[/b]
So you discovering basic facts about the event means you're winning.It's fine to be retarded. But being a condescending retard is annoying.
Just ask Beni. He has a lot of experience in that field.
😂 [/B]
Quote for Revan facing hundreds of Sith on Korriban?
Why would I need to refute a claim of yours that has no evidence backing it?
"But being a condescending retard is annoying."
That it is Ant, does this mean you've finally realized the error of your ways?
Also it means your earlier claims are false. With a team at his disposal any of the opponents Revan faced he didn't face alone or simultaneously thus it's not comparable to Krayt's own skill feat.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Dozens of opponents on the first two floors and the third floor with an unspecified number of opponents doesn't equate to hundreds.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
You're really going to argue Revan fought more Sith on Korriban than on the Star Forge?Even if we want to play retarded, then fine, just change Korriban to the Star Forge.
My point stands. 😬
Action 2: Cutting a Swath The next hour is spent frantically blasting, swiping, and crushing countless Dark Jedi and Sith heavy weapons and elite troopers on your way through the decks of the space station. Continue down your chosen path, down the ramp heading south (on either the east or west of Deck 1) and open the large door. Attack the troops inside, move to the second door, and open it. Take down another series of troops on your way to the southern walkway (Waypoint D). Here you encounter a large number of Dark Jedi crowding this thin, lit walkway. Wade into the fray and execute a number of techniques of your choosing, cutting a swath through the assembled troops until all have fallen. Inspect their remains for items. Then exit via either the west or eastern exits. Either exit allows you onto Deck 2 (Waypoint E or F). Once on Deck 2, take another slog through countless groups of Sith troopers and Dark Jedi. Continue with the melee fighting as you round a corner, and fight to a lower ramp and the rejoining of the two exterior corridors into a pathway leading directly south (Waypoint G). Slash and blast through more foes, open another huge blast door, and repel yet more of Malak’s troops before entering the tunnel and emerging into a gigantic central chamber (Waypoint H)."
Right. 👆
Fact of the matter is, even if you want to play stupid, which you are doing, and acting like dozens or "countless" of Sith apprentices on multiple floors wouldn't reach into the "hundreds," especially considering the numbers fought on Korriban, the feat Revan has on Korriban is still there, and even him fighting through multi-dozen Dark Jedi on the Star Forge and then besting Bastila Shan, an Infinite Army, and Darth Malak is beyond what Darth Krayt's shown. 👆
Originally posted by Syndicate
Quote for Revan facing hundreds of Sith on Korriban?
And then KotORCG states there was an entire "army" present on Korriban.
Why would I need to refute a claim of yours that has no evidence backing it?
Korriban being a vastly inferior nexus to the Star Forge is a fact.
Revan therefore having extreme difficulty calling upon the light side on the Star Forge shouldn't be that ****ing hard to piece together for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Also it means your earlier claims are false. With a team at his disposal any of the opponents Revan faced he didn't face singlehandedly or simultaneously thus it's not comparable to Krayt's own skill feat.
Great argument there. 👆
First off would just like to note that the text states Revan faced dozens of "Sith soldiers, elites, heavy weapons" before mentioning force using opponents. Given force users are a bit rarer then soldiers and heavy weapons I'm going to assume they don't comprise the totality of the multi-dozen group or even half.
Secondly Revan does so with a team thus lessening the impressiveness of the feat. Whatever your thoughts on their contribution are they were a boon to Revan and given we've seen highly trained non force sensitives take down force sensitives in the past ( Cipher Nine/Jango Fett ) I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a lot of the weight in clearing out the station.
It's a better endurance feat, yes. Unless you're saying superior endurance feats put Revan above Krayt as a duelist I don't see how that's relevant.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"The Sith Training Academy was located on the outskirts of Dreshdae, close to the Valley of the Dark Lords. It was a place where Sith were trained in a similar manner as the Jedi, with hundreds of studentsreceiving instruction from Sith Masters." --Star Wars: Jedi Academy Training ManualAnd then KotORCG states there was an entire "army" present on Korriban.
Revan having difficulty calling upon the light side on Korriban is a fact.Korriban being a vastly inferior nexus to the Star Forge is a fact.
Revan therefore having extreme difficulty calling upon the light side on the Star Forge shouldn't be that ****ing hard to piece together for anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
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Yeah, because Canderous Ordo is totally going to be useful in close-quarter combat against Dark Jedi. 😬Great argument there. 👆 [/B]
Fair enough, did he have the team with him then as well? And are there any instances Revan is shown facing multiple force users simultaneously?
Was he unable to use Force abilities as your claiming? Also, quote for the SF being a superior nexus to Korriban? Regardless the gameplay allows you to employ your force abilities on the SF. You'd think if it was the writers intentions to get across the fact that the SF was hindered Revan's abilities to employ offensive force capabilities they would have made that known whether in the Prima Guide or via actual gameplay.
He may and he may not. Neither you or I are aware of how capable he would be against an enemy force user but given the previous examples I mentioned I find it to be possible, hell even likely, that members like Canderous aided Revan a great deal aboard the Star Forge and other missions as well.