Addressing stupidity - potential vs applicable power

Started by Nephthys5 pages

Yeah and Savage choked Dooku and Ventress at the same time when he got pissed enough. Whoop di do.

Your ignorance is astou- actually that sounds about par for the course with you. The effects of the Dooku slaying was permanent to his mindset, not some random rage boost, educate yourself.

Yeah, permanent. Except for like 2 days later when he fought Obi-Wan and apparently dropped from Yoda level to Maul level because he felt totes bad and shit.

duurrr that are make te sense durrr

You've obviously never read that part either, Vader's mind was clouded throughout the duel and he was facing somebody who knew him inside and out, using tricks to disarm Vader in lethal situations and drawing him into environments where Kenobi could recover.

But y'know a>b>c logic is as ever infallible and context means jack shit in Neph world.

P.S. Dooku couldn't break Kenobi's Soresu either, but let's forget that.

Well given Skywalker gave Dooku hell throughout TCW, it's only logical to assume that his ROTS beating of him was legitimate and not a one-off.

Kenobi also had the advantage of knowing Ani's moves inside out, so not necessarily just a case of Skywalker going down a league. After all Yoda sent Obi-Wan to face him for a reason. And I'm sure Yoda knew of the "Obi-Wan getting beat by Dooku getting in turn beat by Ani" triangle.

Originally posted by AncientPower
You've obviously never read that part either, Vader's mind was clouded throughout the duel and he was facing somebody who knew him inside and out, using tricks to disarm Vader in lethal situations and drawing him into environments where Kenobi could recover.

But y'know a>b>c logic is as ever infallible and context means jack shit in Neph world.

P.S. Dooku couldn't break Kenobi's Soresu either, but let's forget that.

Facing someone who knows you inside and out shouldn't matter for a Yoda level going up against a Kenobi level. I mean, if Anakin was actually as powerful as Yoda he could easily ragdoll him. Sidious ragsolled Maul and Savage at the same time easily, both of whom are > Kenobi. Remind me again. how did Anakin vs Obi-Wan go in tk again? how did anakins boundless power work out again?????

losing to a kenobi level means you aint yoda level sorry bro thats not abc logic thats just a fact

except for when he did and beat him

The fight's riddled with circumstances, lol. Obi-Wan, as anguished as he was, was in a better state of mind and actually managed to focus and use his powers properly.

Obi-Wan on his best day couldn't remotely challenge Sidious on his worst day.

Sidious on his worst day got shot by Han 🙂

Because a Force exchange = a Force augmented lightsaber contest.

Given Obi-Wan is specifically known for his telekinetic proficiency in Force push, it is no wonder he matched Vader whose mindset was off. I.E. he was struggling to clear his mind.

Losing to the greatest master of Soresu, who has personal experience with your weaknesses is no sign of inability. But let's all forget Bane couldn't penetrate Zannah's Soresu either.

Except for that time where Kenobi switches to Soresu and easily parries Dooku's every move.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Obi-Wan is specifically known for his telekinetic proficiency in Force push
Originally posted by Nephthys

Have to agree with Neph here AP...

Originally posted by Nephthys

I just laughed at this gif, too funny that scene.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Given Obi-Wan is specifically known for his telekinetic proficiency in Force push

This sounds like a Flashpoint98 quote for some reason...

"We know Quinlan had good TK and feats due to him pulling a Vapaad maneuver against Windu and stalemating Sora Bulq for a short period of time."

"Kolar is a master of the Niman and Ataru styles. This shows his implemation of Physical Combat."

"He is especially fond of delivering high kicks to his foes."

"For force feats, he favors the force push a lot."

"Kolar has a great deal of resistance to pain, so it's most likely he'll walk out of the Rakatan Temple in one piece if that happened to him."

He's blown Durge to pieces, torn down a large tree, moved Durge's ship, repeatedly sent Grievous flying and more. But you wouldn't be mistaking telekinetic proficiency with Force barriers, now would you, Neph?

He's accomplished those feats you're mentioning, yes but nowhere does it state he's proficient in Force push over any other Force ability.

Obi-Wan and Anakin together couldn't force push Dooku.

but obviously anakin crying means he goes from yoda+ to like half dooku clearly obviously

Your rage is hilarious, as are the blatant double standards you're unwittlingly applying in this debate.

Is ignoring context when it suits you, your sole debating tactic?

Look what I found:

"Anakin's style has changed completely between Episode II and Episode III. He now no longer cares. He knows he's unbeatable. He's far more dangerous than anybody in the universe." --NG

The Anakin Brigade is truly immortal. 👆

Oh man, I can't wait to hear this.

What context is there for Ani and Obi underperforming against Dooku this time? I mean, we all know they're both reeeeally better than him in TK, obviously, but I'm dying to hear about the clear unfair advantage he had that makes them failing to TK him, combined, obviously invalid.

Please, enlighten us.