Addressing stupidity - potential vs applicable power

Started by SunRazer5 pages
Obi-Wan has gone up one level from Episode I to Episode III, but it’s a huge jump from one level to another. It’s not just about a style of fighting—it’s mental as well. Anakin has gone up probably four levels from Episode II to Episode III. So he’s gone beyond Obi-Wan, but he hasn’t gone beyond him mentally.

Damn.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Didn't he dodge their TK hit. And then blocked his Tk hit- S6 TCW
Yeah he dodged it, but their combined suped up Force push was barely more potent than Dooku's one-handed gesture, which blew them both back.

So Dooku's evidently still stronger than both of them, this being one season away from RotS. It being really a stretch of not an impossible stretch, to argue he went from that to Yoda level in such a short space of time.

But then TK was never Anakin's strong suit. Funny how that all changed with Vader. 🙂

It's interesting that Dooku's TK didn't blow the Pykes away or anything, but was sufficient to render many of them unconscious. Perhaps some sort of mind-whammy, as well?

They get up - it's just a long time later. Probably just an animation failure/neglect.

Originally posted by SunRazer
They get up - it's just a long time later. Probably just an animation failure/neglect.

Seems unlikely, given the otherwise meticulous detail. They were clearly unconscious, however brief.

Not at all. For very brief moments, Savage stands inert in portions of his duel against Dooku and Obi-Wan/Anakin in Witches of the Mist (Obi-Wan also stands inert at times). Just brief animation lapses that they obviously hoped we wouldn't notice.

Why would it be a mind-whammy instead of the impact just knocking them out briefly?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Why would it be a mind-whammy instead of the impact just knocking them out briefly?

It was awfully gentle impact. When Anakin and Obi-Wan combo TK'd them, they got right back up. Makes me think Dooku's Force push was something more sinister.

Just because they don't go very far doesn't mean it wasn't enough of an impact to knock them out. If a boxer punched you you wouldn't go flying but you might go night night.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Just because they don't go very far doesn't mean it wasn't enough of an impact to knock them out. If a boxer punched you you wouldn't go flying but you might go night night.

A punch from a boxer is a very specific, high velocity impact. Understandable that, when struck in the proper area, you'll lose consciousness.

Not remotely like what we see here in terms of TK, which has a far greater area of effect. It's more of a throw.

The blast was powerful enough to push the Jedi back, it was clearly not weak by any means. Getting slammed by a wall of energy, even if it doesn't have enough force to throw you several meters, is still going to be pretty dang significant.

Maybe these aliens are just push-overs and go down easily.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah he dodged it, but their combined suped up Force push was barely more potent than Dooku's one-handed gesture, which blew them both back.

So Dooku's evidently still stronger than both of them, this being one season away from RotS. It being really a stretch of not an impossible stretch, to argue he went from that to Yoda level in such a short space of time.

But then TK was never Anakin's strong suit. Funny how that all changed with Vader. 🙂

True Anakin never displayed Tk on Dooku's level (on a consistent basis anyway), which is proof enough he wouldn't be normally capable of challenging Sidious or Yoda, given Sidious can even Force choke Dooku.

As for Anakin v Dooku fights, don't forget they were stalemating in DD which would still be a few months prior to ROTS. Also Skywalker may not have the command of Tk that Dooku has, but has shown his force defences tend to hold up better than the likes of Obi-Wan's. Plus he's force choked Ventress which is pretty good.

But yeah seems Skywalker's "unlimited" power in the Force is mainly applied via Saber combat.

Not surprising he's a TK prodigy as Vader though, given as Anakin he did show he has the ability there (overpowering Son and Daughter), so was likely just a matter of time before he mastered that aspect of the Force.

Mmm, it's almost as if it were only potential or something. mmm

I still can't figure out if anyone is serious about this Anakin > Yoda thing.

Anakin is > Yoda

Spoiler:
as a pilot 🙂

🙂

It all depends on the context in which the quotes are mentioned.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
It all depends on the context in which the quotes are mentioned.

Well, alright, pick one.