Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I remember him dodging one punch."Super pacemaker" means nothing when dealing with someone like WWH, who was doing all sort of ridiculous stuff...
Dodging one punch wont make Hulk tell him to stop dancing around and fight.
Yes I know it was WWH, but a forge made device shouldn't be ineffective after one hit. Multiple hits, then I can see it. Shit was ignored.
I would count the fight in hell vs Rulk, but it was inconclusive considering he gave in and let Rulk win so Meph could get the throne back.
Originally posted by golem370
If Juggernaut had not bfr himself crazy as it was, would WWH have beaten him?
That's what I mean. Both Guido and Juggs "defeats" were plot driven. You telling me Juggy was unable to stop himself? His ass didn't even return to the battle until after the fight.
Would Juggs been able to beat Hulk? It would've been too long of a fight and possibly inconclusive, so they wrote in that bs.
Originally posted by jrodslamNo
That's what I mean. Both Guido and Juggs "defeats" were plot driven. You telling me Juggy was unable to stop himself? His ass didn't even return to the battle until after the fight.Would Juggs been able to beat Hulk? It would've been too long of a fight and possibly inconclusive, so they wrote in that bs.
Juggernaut getting bfr'd "for plot" was more indicative of Pak saving the plot than the inverse, basically Hulk was holding back heavily to the point that the X-men were leaves in the wind but Juggernaut was a bigger obstacle. If he wanted to crush him thoroughly it would have happened ala War Hulk (similar power upgrade) and the plot of the arc would be lost. Pak was getting creative when he could have been a lot lazier, he went as far as to make the conditions right for Hulk to actually cut loose later.
F_ck Juggernaut.
Strong guy has no feats or durability showings that can make much difference vs THAT Hulk. He took the same amount of blows as Thing took so there's that
Hulk wrecked the Avengers decades ago as well as other teams added to their ranks with less power, someone like Strong guy touching him without exploding is a huge feat for him considering how jacked Hulk was at that point. same goes for everyone else in that arc (Wolverine, Cyclops, etc)
Some fights between Hulk and Juggs have ended with the Helmet being removed. Vs War Hulk, yes again hes being pushed back and the uses part of his arsenal to toss Juggs(not the same as tripping him). Then yet again, the helmet was removed. Not pure force this time, but by a weapon. Hulk knowing that's 1 or 2 of the only ways to actually defeat Juggs? So if we wanna say its not pis cause its happened before, then fine.
Now as far as Guido not having the feats to show he could with stand from fighting THAT Hulk is true. He doesn't have the feats and will never have feats close to that. But going by previous feats and considering his "fix" to his condition, I would've thought hed fare better. To say he took the same amounts of hits as Thing, seems like an explanation to please said fans of guido. Do we know exactly how jacked Hulk was?
I mean, he was going to cut his head off the second time so...
Super jacked. He was resting at Savage Hulk levels while mad, even his durability and damage resistance from everything was amped. Adamantium was crucial as a means to simply cutting him (and vibranium) and even that was barely ineffectual. I say that to say this: Strong guy got a huge look surviving against THE "strong guy" in his universe just by hanging for a couple panels. Him taking as much damage as the Thing there was a better showing than what happened after when those two actually met and Strong guy looked like the lesser man (then Thing got owned by Shatterstar)