Originally posted by jrodslam
Like stated, he was always Colssunaught. However, the full power of Cyttorak wasnt unleashed. Before that Rulk clearly had the upper hand.
He wasn't always Colossusnaut. He was Colossus, his metal form. He stayed metal because he felt that was the only way to resist Cyttorak's influence somewhat.
There were multiple occasions where he himself and other people say to turn into the Juggernaut. And he is shown transforming.
Originally posted by KingD19
No it wasn't. They showed very clearly that when he's just bald and metal, he's Colossus. He has to actively turn on his Juggernaut powers, and that's shown by him gaining the helmet and such. He actually transformed during the fight.
That's an artist error if anything.
Rulk also casually caught Colossusnaut's punch and tossed him aside later.
Originally posted by KingD19You are correct.
He wasn't always Colossusnaut. He was Colossus, his metal form. He stayed metal because he felt that was the only way to resist Cyttorak's influence somewhat.There were multiple occasions where he himself and other people say to turn into the Juggernaut. And he is shown transforming.
The writer even stated Colossus has no enhancement from Cyttorak when he wasn't wearing the helmet or his eye's weren't glowing. It was regular ol' Piotr. And there was a few times it was stated on panel.
Colossusnaut had 3 forms:
- helmetless, arguably standard power level, pre-Juggernaut.
- "The Juggernaut", helmet on. Supposed to be the classic Juggs powerset + Colossus powers on top of that.
- Demonic form, surpassing the earlier one as shown vs. Rulk.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Prior to unleashing, he had the helmet and rulk was was in control of the fight.
Super-heated thumbs to the eyes worked for a moment, nothing more.
Piotr took Rulk's sneak attack with no problem in his helmetless form, as shown in the main AvX mini.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Colossusnaut had 3 forms:- helmetless, arguably standard power level, pre-Juggernaut.
- "The Juggernaut", helmet on. Supposed to be the classic Juggs powerset + Colossus powers on top of that.
- Demonic form, surpassing the earlier one as shown vs. Rulk.
Super-heated thumbs to the eyes worked for a moment, nothing more.
Piotr took Rulk's sneak attack with no problem in his helmetless form, as shown in the main AvX mini.
Well it worked enough to make him unleash. :/
Yes he did take the sneak attack. Cant argue that. I usually go by the eyes though. Theyve been pretty consistent.... For the most part.
Any low showing is clearly PIS. Storm should have broken her foot, let's be honest considering Colossus takes punches Juggernaut, Hulk, Gladiator, etc... type guys on a daily basis and keeps going back for more. Hell he even had a Celestial grenade blow a hole clean through his body, and he was still okay, just had to heal with the Juggernaut powers. And yeah, he put War Machine on his ass.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't he break his ribs from a fall that wasn't very high?Colossus had no amp from Cyttorak when he chose. The evidence is overwhelming.
Yeah, he got pushed out of a plane by that weird psuedo-mutant guy. The problem is, he's fallen from higher plenty of times before and been fine. If anything his normal form seemed to be weaker or at least subject to a lot of nonsense durability low showings, as he's tanked far worse with ease before.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
It'd be hard to believe he wasn't amped when he was the ruler of hell and his physical attributes were changed.Anybody got scans? Can't find them in Guido's thread.
K gimme a sec.
Guido was soulless and started working for Mephisto. Spent a lot of time in hell and it started to "change him"
http://imgur.com/a/d7Ujm
http://imgur.com/a/EjENv
He accidentally killed Monet. Partial fight.
http://imgur.com/a/ONGrz
http://imgur.com/a/1rwHd
http://imgur.com/a/sOxlc
He had the "power" because of his position. What he did to get it, and the staff/seat.
http://imgur.com/a/aTnOP
http://imgur.com/a/37rN7
http://imgur.com/a/GbbqH
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Same with Wolverine.Low showings, nobody's immune to them...
I get it. It was just aggravating because there's a difference between low showings, and showings so low they shouldn't be possible.
How can Storm, a completely human woman. Actually have any effect on Colossus by kicking him? That isn't her foot shattering because she kicked him as hard as she could.