Starkiller and Galen Marek vs Revan Reborn and SoR Revan

Started by Vixas5 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Uh, no.

Well now my friend you are ignoring some context. Sidious was already shocking Kota which galen stepped INTO willingly. Sidious didn't have much a choice as far as that was concerned. Then, coupled with seeing the rebel leaders getting away, well... when under pressure not all options suddenly appear to you like a list of choices in a video game, time does not stop, you are not given the luxury of cherry-picking how to deal with something.

Wrong quote?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Is it? What has Vitiate accomplished with his lightning that's better then Galen or Starkiller's own feats?

If that were the case why didn't Sidious use drain on Galen in their when they were engaged in a "desperate" force lock.

It is described as 'infinitely' more powerful than Darth Nyriss' Force Lightning Storm which would've incinerated the Jedi Exile Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge. Meetra has tanked Force lightning from Atris and Traya, Lord Scourge has tanked Darth Xedrix's Force Lightning Storm. Now 'infinitely' is obvious hyperbole, but the point remains, Nyriss' strongest lightning storm is nothing compared to Vitiate's.

Revan reborn was capable of absorbing enough of Vitiate's lightning to survive and then heal the crippling damage he suffered from the excess. SOR Revan is a lot more powerful than Revan reborn.

Originally posted by Vixas
Well now my friend you are ignoring some context. Sidious was already shocking Kota which galen stepped INTO willingly. Sidious didn't have much a choice as far as that was concerned. Then, coupled with seeing the rebel leaders getting away, well... when under pressure not all options suddenly appear to you like a list of choices in a video game, time does not stop, you are not given the luxury of cherry-picking how to deal with something.

Fair point but that would imply that Galen approaches Sidious in power to the point that he would be unable to match him in their Force lock AND drain him simultaneously, correct?

Or Palpatine didn't see the need to drain him? 😬

Originally posted by Vixas
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Originally posted by AncientPower
It is described as 'infinitely' more powerful than Darth Nyriss' Force Lightning Storm which would've incinerated the Jedi Exile Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge. Meetra has tanked Force lightning from Atris and Traya, Lord Scourge has tanked Darth Xedrix's Force Lightning Storm. Now 'infinitely' is obvious hyperbole, but the point remains, Nyriss' strongest lightning storm is nothing compared to Vitiate's.

Revan reborn was capable of absorbing enough of Vitiate's lightning to survive and then heal the crippling damage he suffered from the excess. SOR Revan is a lot more powerful than Revan reborn.

It would have done so on a DS nexus where Meetra was being weakened and Nyriss strengthened ( Scourge was apparently Meetra's equal when both were on Dromund Kaas. Galen's lightning being capable of powering the hyperdrive of a freighter and a machine that pierced the hull of an ISD seems to be "infinitely" more powerful then lightning Nyriss is capable of employing on neutral ground.

Granted Reborn Revan may be capable of absorbing Galen or Starkiller's lightning but SoR Revan should be weaker then Reborn Revan given his spirit has been separated.

Zzzz...

Ah sorry Ant xD As noted, I am.. distracted. Anyways, Sindicate I see your point. It's less Palpatine is UNABLE, though I am sure there are folks who would debate thus, but I am currently not. All I am advocating for is that the situation merely made the idea not occur to him, especially taking into account he was already utilizing his force lightning.

Originally posted by Vixas
Ah sorry Ant xD As noted, I am.. distracted. Anyways, Sindicate I see your point. It's less Palpatine is UNABLE, though I am sure there are folks who would debate thus, but I am currently not. All I am advocating for is that the situation merely made the idea not occur to him, especially taking into account he was already utilizing his force lightning.

Sidious doesn't seem like the type of being to up and forget to use an ability he was capable of employing to help win a desperate struggle.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Given he was in a desperate struggle I'd imagine he would have tried anything that would have allowed him a better chance at victory. That's what being desperate implies.

He was desperate because Marek literally touched Palpatine, thus making his own lightning course back into him. It had little to do with Marek's power.

Does anyone know how to place someone else on ignore?

^ Not to mention the rebel leaders were escaping right before his eyes.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It would have done so on a DS nexus where Meetra was being weakened and Nyriss strengthened ( Scourge was apparently Meetra's equal when both were on Dromund Kaas. Galen's lightning being capable of powering the hyperdrive of a freighter and a machine that pierced the hull of an ISD seems to be "infinitely" more powerful then lightning Nyriss is capable of employing on neutral ground.

Which isn't relevant since Revan fought Vitiate on a nexus anyway. 😬

Originally posted by Vixas
^ Not to mention the rebel leaders were escaping right before his eyes.

Yes, exactly. So if he was capable of simply overwhelming Galen and the Rebels simultaneously it's only logical that he would have done it. Considering the text in the novel though it makes it pretty clear that Sidious is incapable of doing this while Galen is matching him which is why Vader arrives with a squadron of stormtroopers to gun down Juno and the Rebels.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Does anyone know how to place someone else on ignore?

😂

Originally posted by Syndicate
Yes, exactly. So if he was capable of simply overwhelming Galen and the Rebels simultaneously it's only logical that he would have done it. Considering the text in the novel though it makes it pretty clear that Sidious is incapable of doing this while Galen is matching him which is why Vader arrives with a squadron of stormtroopers to gun down Juno and the Rebels.

I do hope it's not me you wish to place on ignore.

It's not - don't worry.

Originally posted by Vixas
I do hope it's not me you wish to place on ignore.

No, not you. I wanted to ignore someone who's an insect, an ant really. Nobody for you to worry your head over.

Wait, what? Why is Syndicate talking about Force Drain? 😂

Yes, I'm asking because I couldn't be bothered to check the first page. Deal with it, scrubs.