Spider-man has the most showings of dynamic strength. Superman's showings are more or less his natural everyday strength. It was a few times he dropped his mental blocks completely and went all out. But that is only a few times. When Spidey is PISSED he goes up several levels. When Superman is PISSED then he still operates around the same level (a little more) because he still has the mental blocks on.
It is only fair we use proportions and not actual tonnage gained.
For example, Spidey tripling his strength is better than Superman gaining 1 million tons. This is because gaining 1 million tons is less than triple for Superman (although it is more than Spidey's triple increase lol).
All of them.
Superman has been around since the 30s. Spiderman, the 60s.
I will gamble any amount of money that Supes has more appearances than Spiderman. On top of that, we have Superman going from his normal levels to sneezing galaxies etc.
Lets just take post-crisis, if you want to make it fairer to Spidey. So since 1985. Again, I will bet that Superman - across Action Comics, JLA, Batman/Superman, Superman etc etc, will have more appearances than Spiderman. So out of all those showings, I bet he will have more examples than Spidey. Just because he appears in a gazillion more comics.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Haha seriously though. Replace Supes and Bug boy with a more obscure hero with a decent history of feats. They all do it to a degree. They all rise to the occasion as the plot thickens.
Of course they do. When it comes to Superman though, his increase is so substantial that it goes beyond the realms of "I'm not holding back anymore". There are a fair number of characters that can do it, but it's a select few of them that have done it enough, and to such a large amount, that it has to be considered part of their powerset.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Haha seriously though. Replace Supes and Bug boy with a more obscure hero with a decent history of feats. They all do it to a degree. They all rise to the occasion as the plot thickens.
It doesn't matter what you think. It's an actual power of Superman's. Stories establish it. It's not at all what you're arguing. Carter and others are in denial. Don't be like carter and others.
Originally posted by Delta1938
It doesn't matter what you think. It's an actual power of Superman's. Stories establish it. It's not at all what you're arguing. Carter and others are in denial. Don't be like carter and others.
Its been EXPLICITLY stated in a comic that he has that power? Not alluded to either i mean mentioned outright like flight or heat vision.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Its been EXPLICITLY stated in a comic that he has that power? Not alluded to either i mean mentioned outright like flight or heat vision.
Yes. He actually holds back to the point his powers are lessened. Not just he doesn't hit as hard. He literally holds back his stats. He's been powerless before and gone back to having powers on the fly, on at least 3 occasions, due entirely to his mental state. At least two major writers have said as much on his powers being dynamic, as well.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Yes. He actually holds back to the point his powers are lessened. Not just he doesn't hit as hard. He literally holds back his stats. He's been powerless before and gone back to having powers on the fly, on at least 3 occasions, due entirely to his mental state. At least two major writers have said as much on his powers being dynamic, as well.
So he can become "weaker" due to his body rejecting solar energy, not stronger?