Superman or Spiderman

Started by Delta19385 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have scans somewhere where it tells us he is becoming stronger during mid fight/showing? Could he exceed his OWAW Sundipping self without diving in the sun for that extra boost due to his dynamic power?

Scans have been posted before. You continue to deny them. You know this.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Scans have been posted before. You continue to deny them. You know this.

So if I make a thread of Superman vs Superboy Prime and make the stips, "Superman gets doubled stress per second" would he go Superman breaker and destroy Prime?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Yes. He actually holds back to the point his powers are lessened. Not just he doesn't hit as hard. He literally holds back his stats. He's been powerless before and gone back to having powers on the fly, on at least 3 occasions, due entirely to his mental state. At least two major writers have said as much on his powers being dynamic, as well.

Where?

Originally posted by carver9
So if I make a thread of Superman vs Superboy Prime and make the stips, "Superman gets doubled stress per second" would he go Superman breaker and destroy Prime?

Boy are you stupid. You've been called out on the idiocy of arguing because someone's not exactly like Hulk then they don't have dynamic powers on multiple occasions, yet you still pimp this out. How you can be this incompetent and yet not write like a stereotype boggles the mind.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Where?

Has he gone from powerless to powered? ACTION COMICS, I think #586(somewhere around there). He goes from having powers to losing them(we actually see he's unharmed by fire then suddenly burned) only to gain them back.

SUPERMAN/BATMAN ANNUAL #2(I think it was) where he was powerless for about a couple months, then had powers again when Batman was in danger.

In ACTION COMICS during the UP, UP AND AWAY storyline where he was powerless for a year after INFINITE CRISIS, then hints and showings that he partially regained his powers while being chased by a couple supervillains hired to kill Clark, and then when he's about to be hit by a train, well, he's fine and there's an indent where his hand was. Powers were not completely back, he could only jump for example, not fly. Then when facing a bunch of villains, his powers were restored more but still not fully. Then came back fully when Jimmy was in danger. Then he gained a new power.

Both Byrne(on his website's message board) and Joe Casey(CBR interview I think it was) have stated his powers being dependent on his mind(Casey didn't say solely on his mind, but about even on solar energy and his mind).

superman imo and it's not really all that close to my way of thinking.... /shrug

Originally posted by Delta1938
SUPERMAN/BATMAN ANAL #2(I think it was) where he was powerless for about a couple months

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Originally posted by Delta1938
Boy are you stupid. You've been called out on the idiocy of arguing because someone's not exactly like Hulk then they don't have dynamic powers on multiple occasions, yet you still pimp this out. How you can be this incompetent and yet not write like a stereotype boggles the mind.

How does his amping work? What triggers him to get stronger?

Originally posted by carver9
How does his amping work? What triggers him to get stronger?

His mental state. Deal with it.

Originally posted by carver9
So if I make a thread of Superman vs Superboy Prime and make the stips, "Superman gets doubled stress per second" would he go Superman breaker and destroy Prime?

I almost spit out my kool-aid wheni read that. Ahh carver. 😆 😆

Originally posted by Delta1938
His mental state. Deal with it.

What kind of mental state?

Originally posted by carver9
What kind of mental state?

What the comics show.

There is no consistent explanation of the exact nature of Superman's dynamism.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Has he gone from powerless to powered? ACTION COMICS, I think #586(somewhere around there). He goes from having powers to losing them(we actually see he's unharmed by fire then suddenly burned) only to gain them back.

SUPERMAN/BATMAN ANNUAL #2(I think it was) where he was powerless for about a couple months, then had powers again when Batman was in danger.

In ACTION COMICS during the UP, UP AND AWAY storyline where he was powerless for a year after INFINITE CRISIS, then hints and showings that he partially regained his powers while being chased by a couple supervillains hired to kill Clark, and then when he's about to be hit by a train, well, he's fine and there's an indent where his hand was. Powers were not completely back, he could only jump for example, not fly. Then when facing a bunch of villains, his powers were restored more but still not fully. Then came back fully when Jimmy was in danger. Then he gained a new power.

Both Byrne(on his website's message board) and Joe Casey(CBR interview I think it was) have stated his powers being dependent on his mind(Casey didn't say solely on his mind, but about even on solar energy and his mind).

Thx 👌

Superman is more dynamic for sure. In fact, he has the highest dynamic strength in all of comics. One day he wears a mullet and is, perhaps, mid meta then the next he lifts an infinitely heavy book. Quite literally, he is as strong as he needs to be (for the Story in question). That is how Superman's powers work.

Wouldn't that be plot based strength tho? Not necessarily dynamic

You guys do realise Spiderman has also convinced himself he has no powers due to his mental state also, Sin is clearly right any character is as strong as the story needs them to be.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wouldn't that be plot based strength tho? Not necessarily dynamic

Dynamic strength is partially a way of explaining plot based strength. Same with the likes of Hulk for example. Or Flash's speed etc.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wouldn't that be plot based strength tho? Not necessarily dynamic

Except Superman has MULTIPLE stories showing he does have it. 😬 You've been told this, even shown before.

Originally posted by Americarp
You guys do realise Spiderman has also convinced himself he has no powers due to his mental state also, Sin is clearly right any character is as strong as the story needs them to be.

If so then Spider-Man might have it too. Doesn't negate the fact that this isn't "oh all heroes are as strong as they need to be."