Bane vs Daredevil

Riv, like who?

Ammo, Bullet and Crusher have all more or less dominated Matt but seem like someone who are physically below Bane.

You're forgetting about Mandrill.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Riv, like who?

Ammo, Bullet and Crusher have all more or less dominated Matt but seem like someone who are physically below Bane.

Hulk (as mentioned), Silver Surfer, Thor, Namor, Spider-man...

Not saying he won those fights, just that they speak to his damage soak. I'm not going to try and lowball Bane to make DD look better.
My stance on DD has always been he's tougher than Batman, as he does/fights comparable things/villains without a billion dollar suit with equipment. He does it with spandex and his billy clubs.

Lawyers aren't exactly poor, though. Those billy clubs are quite expensive, being bulletproof and the cable being able to restrain Spiderboy for a while.

They are actually better than Nightwing's, lol.

Haha

Riv.

He's not taking real punches from those guys.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Riv.

He's not taking real punches from those guys.

I agree with this. When Hulk hit Deadpool with a serious punch, someone who is comparable to Daredevil physically, it atomized him. Any of the guys Riv named ever decided to get serious with Daredevil, he would die instantly.

He didn't take any real hits from those guys, excluding maybe Spiderpussy.

Haha, okay kris, Carver & Stilt.

When i start ****ing with you guys in the future, dismissing your points because the characters arent "fighting for real", remember you all decided to go CBR first. 😉

Something people need to take into consideration when it regards Daredevil. Its not entirely DAMAGE SOAK. Many of the hits he take from powerhouses is because they cant land clear hits on him. He dodges a large majority of them, and he constantly takes this. He rolls with punches reducing their effectiveness.

I can see that. GL with the 3 amigos, though; all they see is no blood lust murder-death-kill. 🙂

Originally posted by jrodslam
Something people need to take into consideration when it regards Daredevil. Its not entirely DAMAGE SOAK. Many of the hits he take from powerhouses is because they cant land clear hits on him. He dodges a large majority of them, and he constantly takes this. He rolls with punches reducing their effectiveness.

Sucks that Bane has enhanced speed. Grayson wasn't able to out agile Bane. Neither did Batman.

Many believe Matts more agile than Bats and to a degree, NW too. More or less on the same agile level. Radar, puts it over though.

All the characters i listed are likely faster than Bane, unless he's caught tank shells and bullets. 😛

Originally posted by jrodslam
Many believe Matts more agile than Bats and to a degree, NW too. More or less on the same agile level. Radar, puts it over though.

Certainly to a degree, but not by much. Bane basically tooled NW. Bane has enhanced stats WITHOUT venom. With venom, Bane would crush DD.

Nah.

Different things to consider. Always. Lets take DD, BAts and NW.

DD more agile that bats and maybe/maybe not more agile than NW. Not much difference.

DD a better fighter than NW, but not much less of a fighter than Bats.

DD has the radar. Makes him harder to hit or fully land a clean blow than both NW and Bats.

Honestly the fight is hard to call. In the previous links, bats took a lot of damage, but yet put bane down without gadget use really. When bane broke the bats back, wasnt bat previously in a gauntlet?

You do know that Nu Bane beat Batman's rogue gallery while they were on Venom? 😛

His track record was insane. World War Bane, basically.

World War Bane would pretty much crush any street leveler. I wouldn't even give Batman odds over him.

I read in this site (regarding the venom'd villains) that it wasnt clear to what extent it amped them. Not taking away from the feat, but it was established all the villains werent summarily on Bane's level.