Originally posted by Jmanghan
Kylo Ren gets stomped by any of them, so he's a non factor.Maul and Kenobi is close, but I'd give it to Kenobi 6/10 times.
Dooku one-shots Ren, possibly.
Originally posted by KurkHe explicitly stated that he would lose to Vader.
You underestimate Ren's power. Don't be so certain with Kenobi vs Maul. Rebels Maul is on Vader's level and has better overall showings in canon.
Ren has done nothing to put him near these men.
Ren got tagged by a stormtrooper, a stormtrooper who'd get beaten by your average clone.
X1 as a clone would stomp the shit out of Finn.
He also got beaten by Rey, so thats....
Like, do I really need to explain why thats embarrassing?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
He explicitly stated that he would lose to Vader.Ren has done nothing to put him near these men.
Ren got tagged by a stormtrooper, a stormtrooper who'd get beaten by your average clone.
X1 as a clone would stomp the shit out of Finn.
He also got beaten by Rey, so thats....
Like, do I really need to explain why thats embarrassing?
Jman, that 'stormtrooper' is the most elite in the entire Order, furthermore Kylo is stated to enjoy their little bout before Kylo slaughters him. Kylo at this point was having difficulty even standing after the bowcaster shot he was tanking, something that severely hindered his ability to use basic telekinesis on objects.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
No longer taking this seriously.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Jman, that 'stormtrooper' is the most elite in the entire Order, furthermore Kylo is stated to enjoy their little bout before Kylo slaughters him. Kylo at this point was having difficulty even standing after the bowcaster shot he was tanking, something that severely hindered his ability to use basic telekinesis on objects.
Originally posted by relentless1
Dooku/Kenobi slaughter, Kylo is by far the weak link here.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Dooku one shots Kylo
Originally posted by MythLord
Nobody's one-shotting anybody, tbh. But Kenobi and the Count take it.
Originally posted by Kurk
Fine, stay ignorant for all I care.At last, someone with the most basic of common sense.
If anything, Kenobi is the weak link here by far. Both Ren and Maul could one shot him with the force if they wanted.
Don't be so certain.
Do you have actual reasons as to why? Ren has shown superior force feats. How many other jedi/sith have stopped a blaster bolt like that or frozen a force user in their tracks? I gurantee that both weak-ass Kenobi and Dooku would not be able to live, let alone stand and fight had they been shot by a bow-caster or severed in half. Rethink your options if you're as wise as you think.
Cringe.
Originally posted by AncientPowerStormtrooper thats top of his class and is trained in melee combat still = stormtrooper.
Jman, that 'stormtrooper' is the most elite in the entire Order, furthermore Kylo is stated to enjoy their little bout before Kylo slaughters him. Kylo at this point was having difficulty even standing after the bowcaster shot he was tanking, something that severely hindered his ability to use basic telekinesis on objects.
They are fodder, and they've always been fodder.
Difficulty standing, but he could fight just fine? Thats inconsistent.
Didn't stop him from blasting Rey into a gigantic tree and KO'ing her for like 3 minutes.
Stormtroopers of the First Order, unlike the Galactic Empire, are super soldiers trained since birth to combat Jedi, among other things. Kylo Ren isn't even seriously dueling him until the second half of the duel when Kylo takes the gloves off and rips him a new one.
Difficulty standing up, thus his ability to fight was diminished. The pain also clouded his mind, as did killing his father. It got worse and worse as he exerted himself.
Read the novel.
Originally posted by AncientPowerStomping 20 FO Stormtroopers in Melee Combat one at a time while badly injured and beyond depressed wouldn't strike me as impressive, even if Finn was among them.
Stormtroopers of the First Order, unlike the Galactic Empire, are super soldiers trained since birth to combat Jedi, among other things. Kylo Ren isn't even seriously dueling him until the second half of the duel when Kylo takes the gloves off and rips him a new one.Difficulty standing up, thus his ability to fight was diminished. The pain also clouded his mind, as did killing his father. It got worse and worse as he exerted himself.
Read the novel.
All Soldiers are Fodder to Jedi, yes, even my beloved X2 and X1.
Anyway, they aren't even the best soldiers, that goes to the Clone Troopers.