Maul & Kylo Ren vs Kenobi & Dooku

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Stomping 20 FO Stormtroopers in Melee Combat one at a time while badly injured and beyond depressed wouldn't strike me as impressive, even if Finn was among them.

All Soldiers are Fodder to Jedi, yes, even my beloved X2 and X1.

Anyway, they aren't even the best soldiers, that goes to the Clone Troopers.

They are trained to face Jedi in CQC melee combbat, from birth, amd Finn was the best. What makes that fodder innthe slightest? I also point again to a fact you ignored completely, Finn tagged him because Kylo was having fun with the traitor. Then he easily stomped Finn when he got serious.

Unless you have any evidence suggesting Finn wadn't the best of the best of his batch, the most promising batch yet, then I'd suggest you just shut up already.

Originally posted by AncientPower
They are trained to face Jedi in CQC melee combbat, from birth, amd Finn was the best. What makes that fodder innthe slightest? I also point again to a fact you ignored completely, Finn tagged him because Kylo was having fun with the traitor. Then he easily stomped Finn when he got serious.

Unless you have any evidence suggesting Finn wadn't the best of the best of his batch, the most promising batch yet, then I'd suggest you just shut up already.

Nice head-canon, Jman.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Nice head-canon, Jman.

-Would actually get stomped by a Padawan-

:/

Source for Finn getting stomped by a padawan?

I think this whole 'trained to fight Jedi' thing is being blown up too much. It's one thing to say that they are, it's another entirely to do so.

Plus what Jedi? Luke's Jedi? Who we know nothing of, nothing of their capabilities and were all essentially wiped out by Ren and the Knights of Ren(possibly?)??

There's no....like hard evidence, also as I'm reading, select Troopers the Riot Control Troopers are trained in riot tactics, not fighting Jedi.

There's more evidence pointing to that, then there is to them fighting Jedi. Sure it's noted that Hux was inspired by the Jedi to create the First Order training....but what does that even mean exactly?

Bringing up the weapons and equipment as being lightsaber resistant is fine and dandy but...so? Great the equipment can stand up to a lightsaber, that doesn't really mean anything. Someone could have themselves an Electrostaff, does that mean they expect to fight Jedi? No. Or a Cortosis blade? No.

It's fine if the FO ST are trained to fight Jedi, but I need something clear cut, maybe in the next movie they'll show this...but as of now? I don't see anything straight to the point, most of it seems kinda shaky to me.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
I think this whole 'trained to fight Jedi' thing is being blown up too much. It's one thing to say that they are, it's another entirely to do so.

Plus what Jedi? Luke's Jedi? Who we know nothing of, nothing of their capabilities and were all essentially wiped out by Ren and the Knights of Ren(possibly?)??

There's no....like hard evidence, also as I'm reading, select Troopers the Riot Control Troopers are trained in riot tactics, not fighting Jedi.

There's more evidence pointing to that, then there is to them fighting Jedi. Sure it's noted that Hux was inspired by the Jedi to create the First Order training....but what does that even mean exactly?

Bringing up the weapons and equipment as being lightsaber resistant is fine and dandy but...so? Great the equipment can stand up to a lightsaber, that doesn't really mean anything. Someone could have themselves an Electrostaff, does that mean they expect to fight Jedi? No. Or a Cortosis blade? No.

It's fine if the FO ST are trained to fight Jedi, but I need something clear cut, maybe in the next movie they'll show this...but as of now? I don't see anything straight to the point, most of it seems kinda shaky to me.

Its on the Lucas Forums or something.

"Official" Moderators confirmed that they train in the Jedi Arts, and now everyone is claiming its true.

Besides, Clones are trained to fight with Electrostaffs and Force Pikes as well.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Only on Vader's level? So Vader sill has a shot at taking him down? Your Master will have your head for this.

Originally posted by Trocity
Cringe.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Stormtroopers of the First Order, unlike the Galactic Empire, are super soldiers trained since birth to combat Jedi, among other things. Kylo Ren isn't even seriously dueling him until the second half of the duel when Kylo takes the gloves off and rips him a new one.

Difficulty standing up, thus his ability to fight was diminished. The pain also clouded his mind, as did killing his father. It got worse and worse as he exerted himself.

Read the novel.

I encourage you to join our cause and leave these ignoramuses behind.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Stomping 20 FO Stormtroopers in Melee Combat one at a time while badly injured and beyond depressed wouldn't strike me as impressive, even if Finn was among them.

All Soldiers are Fodder to Jedi, yes, even my beloved X2 and X1.

Anyway, they aren't even the best soldiers, that goes to the Clone Troopers.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I think sheep shouldn't be capitalized in that sentence.

Yep.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Its on the Lucas Forums or something.

"Official" Moderators confirmed that they train in the Jedi Arts, and now everyone is claiming its true.

The only thing I know about them and Jedi, is that Hux was inspired by them to create the FO training...but if there's something about them specifically trained in the Jedi Arts, then that would lean more towards them training to fight Jedi.

Team 2, not even close

Originally posted by McP
Team 2, not even close