Originally posted by Zack M
Bronze Tiger respect thread.
Well ill be blowed. It has the other steel wolf fight too
Originally posted by Zack M
Bronze Tiger respect thread.
Well ill be blowed. It has the other steel wolf fight too
Originally posted by Zack M
I respect Stick, Karnak not so much. Both companies have a crap load of formidable, obscure MA/super soldiers, but I think DC's catalog is superior, especially when you factor in Milestone and WS.
Karnak = One Trick Pony, yes.
But it's hard to find anyone else with his ability... Mandy and Temugin are similar, but can we say they'd easily break free from a prison designed for the Hulk or KO Silver Surfer?
Might be debatable if Karnak specializing in one thing grants him a place in the top tier - most likely not, as he's not versatile enough - but he still should at least be mentioned.
We can nitpick other characters, too. Wolverine focusing too much on offense, Daredevil attacking with kicks too often, Cassie relying too much on her body-reading ability, Batman's footwork sucking 😖hifty: , etc.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Karnak = One Trick Pony, yes.But it's hard to find anyone else with his ability... Mandy and Temugin are similar, but can we say they'd easily break free from a prison designed for the Hulk or KO Silver Surfer?
Might be debatable if Karnak specializing in one thing grants him a place in the top tier - most likely not, as he's not versatile enough - but he still should at least be mentioned.
We can nitpick other characters, too. Wolverine focusing too much on offense, Daredevil attacking with kicks too often, Cassie relying too much on her body-reading ability, Batman's footwork sucking 😖hifty: , etc.
I'm just pointing out that dc has formidable streets and MA. If anything, they have the over powered ones.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He is. Bruce's stats and skill + Dick's agility + Shiva's body-reading.He's actually even better, considering he has actual super-powers.
Lol, no. Cap and Panther have learned every martial art there is on Earth, something that actually was stated on panel.
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Originally posted by leonidas
lol why the f*** would i have to show him beating any MA when i showed him effortlessly dodging bullets (from a high level MA in pool...) and straight up beating a legit speedster??
Because that's how you measure up against in street hierarchy. Just like in every other category.
Katana has done all that stuff too. Put her against someone like Batman and he would take her out in one hit.
Its skill that matters.
seriously, the hell kind of reasoning is that? and why the f*** do i care about stroke in this match?? i guess i could sit here and lowball him to make bt's decent showing against him look like sh!t, but i happen to like ds. but just because bt had a decent showing against him doesn't mean he wins this in any way.
Haha, right. Next you are gonna tell me Blade takes out Captain America or Daredevil because he is "bullet timer" and can hit "a speedster".
Since when did you join CBR?
i guess i could further show him matching pool in swordplay and matching dracula as well, but why would i when you showed nothing at all? and the fact that he is great with his sword only makes this even more lop-sided.
Moon knight has outright defeated Deadpool in sword fight and chopped him to pieces.
You are taking as if Deadpool is some kind of master martial artist. Take away his HF and even Damian Wayne would kick his ass.
my friend, that is some of the worst countering i've ever seen. bt doesn't have the feats to suggest he takes even a few wins, let alone sweeps as evidenced by your complete lack of ability to show.....any feats at all. 😂
Of course he has. Beating down Batman and Deathstroke is far better than dodging bullets and hitting a speedster and getting oneshotted by Captain America.
Speaking of fighting Vampires, even a D level MA in DC like Katana can fight several of them at once and break their necks with a simple kick.
http://i.imgur.com/597Gxp7.jpg
Bullets dodging and blocking with her katana. Even light beams from Dr. Light.
She is a meta!!!!!
Originally posted by abhilegendShe is a meta!!!!!
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cuz that's helpful. good lord....even your own scan owned you when it showed her snapping a vamps neck and that doing nothing! lol only her sword can kill them! does bt have katana's sword then?? only you would think that scan in ANY WAY helps your cause! i mean you realize we're talking about bt not someone wielding a magic sword, yes? and vamps in marvel were taking down spiderman so i'm sure they're the same thing. but good job with more (really awful) abc logic. 👆
seriously, you keep talking but showing nothing. in mean, nothing for bt. you know, the guy in the actual thread? most would have just dropped it by now and taken the loss. a massive lol at stalemating bats and stalemating deathstroke as being uber though. it's nowhere close to being as meaningful as you wish it was. again, not sure if you recall how this whole thing works at kmc, but....feats are what matter. you have none so you have no leg to stand on. at all. you do like to mention that cap showing though, as if it were somehow turrible. so, how about if you show it to everyone. 🙂 i could show cap struggling with baron blood--a vamp<<blade since you are so fond of abc logic. and like i said, i could show spidey getting his a$$ handed to him by vamps that blade regularly manhandles. but that's all easy to find stuff and i don't need to since....you have nothing. at all.
it's hilarious you somehow think bt would sweep this match. 😂 the way you've argued it, anyone reading this would be hard-pressed to give bt a single win in this match up. since you have nothing of relevance there is no need to keep this up. always fun though. 👆
Originally posted by Zack M
What did he lose? You guys haven't proven that blade can win. I think this fight will be similar to Ras Al Ghul vs Deathstroke. Ras got the upper hand because of skill.
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cuz you've proven tiger wins?? good lord.... again, in this forum, it is FEATS that matter. i've shown some that bt can't match. you guys have shown....NOTHING. it's really kinda ridiculous this has gone this far tbh...
why the hell, again, would i need to? blade is very skilled--not as skilled as bt, but he's matched deadpool as a quick example--but has strength, speed, healing, armor AND a weapon! lol the skill gap is no where close to big enough to make up for all that. enough to get him a couple wins? sure? a majority, or (lol) a sweep?? c'mon....
Originally posted by deathslash
because Slade was tired and steel wolf has no real skill to speak of.
How tired was Slade? A weakened Slade has done some impressive things.
And how skilled is Blade compared to BT, in your opinion? Ra's (who is more skilled than Slade) took apart Deathstroke despite his enhanced stats. Could you see Ra's doing the same to Blade? Off topic, just want to know your opinion.
Originally posted by leonidasI agree.
why the hell, again, would i need to? blade is very skilled--not as skilled as bt, but he's matched deadpool as a quick example--but has strength, speed, healing, armor AND a weapon! lol the skill gap is no where close to big enough to make up for all that. enough to get him a couple wins? sure? a majority, or (lol) a sweep?? c'mon....
Originally posted by Zack Mit wasn't stated how tired he was, but he fought BT after several days (or was it weeks?) of running from the US government. It'd be reasonable to assume that it at least factored into the victory.
How tired was Slade? A weakened Slade has done some impressive things.And how skilled is Blade compared to BT, in your opinion? Ra's (who is more skilled than Slade) took apart Deathstroke despite his enhanced stats. Could you see Ra's doing the same to Blade? Off topic, just want to know your opinion.
I'm not gonna bullshit you, as far as skill goes, blade is probably within the top 40 of Marvel (top 15 if we're talking about swordsmanship), but his stats are undeniably above those of BT (ffs, he ripped a vampire's head off with one hand) and tiger only has a non skilled steel wolf and tired and (arguably) holding back slade to his name as far as enhanced opponents go. I would like to see the scans of that fight. Either way, I think that ra's beating death stroke could be PIS or a very high end showing for him. Ra's has struggled with Tim before and batman has beaten him more often than not. That doesn't mean that they can now beat slade.
Let's also not forget that shiva has owned him before (when he had the help of other league of assassin members no less), the best he could do was stalemate batman, and cat man was dominating him. Has he fought characters that are more powerful than him? Sure, and he's still alive to tell the tale. Has he lost to or only just managed to match opposes that should feasibly be underneath him? F*ck yeah!
Originally posted by deathslash
it wasn't stated how tired he was, but he fought BT after several days (or was it weeks?) of running from the US government. It'd be reasonable to assume that it at least factored into the victory.I'm not gonna bullshit you, as far as skill goes, blade is probably within the top 40 of Marvel (top 15 if we're talking about swordsmanship), but his stats are undeniably above those of BT (ffs, he ripped a vampire's head off with one hand) and tiger only has a non skilled steel wolf and tired and (arguably) holding back slade to his name as far as enhanced opponents go. I would like to see the scans of that fight. Either way, I think that ra's beating death stroke could be PIS or a very high end showing for him. Ra's has struggled with Tim before and batman has beaten him more often than not. That doesn't mean that they can now beat slade.
Let's also not forget that shiva has owned him before (when he had the help of other league of assassin members no less), the best he could do was stalemate batman, and cat man was dominating him. Has he fought characters that are more powerful than him? Sure, and he's still alive to tell the tale. Has he lost to or only just managed to match opposes that should feasibly be underneath him? F*ck yeah!
I was speaking about DCnU Ras. Not pre Flashpoint.
