Is "Cut Content", specifically TLSRCM, to be considered Canon?

Started by S W LeGenD9 pages

Depends what you mean when you say it's been officially sanctioned. Short of an official statement or the game being re-released with the old game files being overwritten by the mod, you can't say it's technically canon, no matter how well the mod is supported.

I mean it's been approved in an official capacity, which is sufficient.

Approved in what sense?

In the sense that it was supported as an official mod/restored content for the game, yeah.

Which could be for many reasons; doesn't necessarily mean that the mod's canon.

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
Which could be for many reasons; doesn't necessarily mean that the mod's canon.

Re-read the first post and tell me if you still think that mmm

Oh my God, people. You're being ridiculously strict with this.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
If it's officially sanctioned it's canon as per Leland Chee. So the burden of proof would be on you to demonstrate such an exception.

This.

And even if you refuse to accept this for whatever stupid reason, the fact that Lucasfilm endorsed and supported the implementation of this specific mod should be good enough in order for us to use the material in a debate and consider it at the very least valid. Don't be such tight-asses.

And Ares, I said that Lucasfilm supporting the application of this mod to the game implies an extremely obvious extension of support to the modders themselves. Or what, are you seriously arguing that Lucasfilm supports and endorses the adding of the mod to the game but not the modders themselves? 😬

So was the DLC where Lord Starkiller whooped Force Ghost Ben 😂

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
So was the DLC where Lord Starkiller whooped Force Ghost Ben 😂

Not even close, considering Starkiller whooping the Force Ghost of Ben isn't Legends canon, whereas this is restored content that was originally intended to be a part of the game being officially endorsed by Lucasfilm. Starkiller destroying Ben is simply a non-canon part of the game, lol.

Yeah if the modded version is not part "the game proper" I see no reason why it should be treated as such.

Your argument is that because the mod was supported by Lucasars it's canon, well so was that DLC. You need some better argument for this.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah if the modded version is not part "the game proper" I see no reason why it should be treated as such.

Because Lucasfilm is officially endorsing this specific mod which happens to include the restored content of the original game... Even if you still think it's not canon, at least you'd have to agree that it's valid to use it in debates.

Why else would Lucasfilm endorse this if not because they are completely aware that it's the way in which the game was intended to be played?

And why would they make their support official if not to acknowledge this content as part of the game?

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Your argument is that because the mod was supported by Lucasars it's canon, well so was that DLC. You need some better argument for this.

No it's not, you're just analyzing this with a very narrow point of view.

Lucasfilm is completely aware that DLC does not necessarily need to be canon, and thus making it part of the game changes nothing. Lucasfilm knows that's how the game was intended to be played, is aware that it's restored content and knows that was to be the original playthrough, unlike just quite literally implementing a 'what if, non-canon' scenario into a game DLC, which for obvious reasons nobody would think is part of the time line.

We're talking about restored content that was officially endorsed by Lucasfilm to be put back into the game.

The context for both is absolutely different.

People need to stop segregating the two arguments being made in this thread. There isn't some dramatic turnaround as soon as Beni posted his quote, all that quote is, is the final piece to my original post.

Also, Zoltan, the DLC is expressly not canon because it constitutes an 'infinities' or 'alternate timeline' source, which is covered in the canon rules. All content that is published by Lucasarts is canon unless expressly said to be otherwise...

Sure. But they never published TSLRCM.

Originally posted by Petrus
And Ares, I said that Lucasfilm supporting the application of this mod to the game implies an extremely obvious [B]extension of support to the modders themselves. Or what, are you seriously arguing that Lucasfilm supports and endorses the adding of the mod to the game but not the modders themselves? 😬 [/B]

No. I‘m stating that Lucasfilm has never directly supported or endorsed the mod nor the modders.

Originally posted by S W LeGenD
Which could be for many reasons; doesn't necessarily mean that the mod's canon.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
If it's officially sanctioned it's canon as per Leland Chee. So the burden of proof would be on you to demonstrate such an exception.
We are going round in circles, yeah.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
So was the DLC where Lord Starkiller whooped Force Ghost Ben 😂
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Your argument is that because the mod was supported by Lucasars it's canon, well so was that DLC. You need some better argument for this.
So all DLC is non-canon unless explicitly stated otherwise? I think you'll find it's the other way around. 😱

Originally posted by Beniboybling
We are going round in circles, yeah.

Where does LC state that anything they support/endorse is officially canon?

Originally posted by Selenial
Re-read the first post and tell me if you still think that mmm

Which part?

No. I‘m stating that Lucasfilm has never directly supported or endorsed the mod nor the modders.

Then, according to you, what exactly has Lucas endorsed/supported regarding the TSLRCM?