Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Dooku could easily sense the inner turmoil within Skywalker.
Sense his turmoil, perhaps; but knowing the source of that turmoil and exploiting it is something only someone with a history with Skywalker would reasonably be expected to do.
Revan, who's foremost teachings to the Sith Assassins was to how to break the minds of the Jedi they fought, is going to use that to his advantage.
Then I assume it would be no trouble to request an example of him employing this tactic against a relevant opponent?
Right.
uhuh Disowned.
It wasn't.
Oh? You're telling me that there wasn't an alternative explanation for Vitiate's silence in the new expansion? 😕
Not true, given Revan was also simultaneously defending his own mind and power from Vitiate and the Dread Master's meddling.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
There's a massive distinction between couldn't and didn't. The fact he didn't doesn't mean he couldn't.
Then it means that he wouldn't.
Having his power radiate and maintain a galactic disturbance in the Force, telepathically broadcasting a vision to Tari Darkspanner across the galaxy, and ripping information from the skulls of the Rakata and then implanting them with that of his own (note the Rakata are a highly-Force resistant species, with KotOR Revan failing to use mind tricks on them) also come to mind. As does his feat in Malachor V and corrupting hundreds of Jedi.
Anakin is not some random Rakata, and this fight doesn't take place on Malachor. Your position has no grounds to stand on.
Sense his turmoil, perhaps; but knowing the source of that turmoil and exploiting it is something only someone with a history with Skywalker would reasonably be expected to do.
It has nothing to do with an extensive history with Skywalker. Anyone remotely proficient at Force sense and Don Moch could replicate it.
Let alone someone on the caliber of Revan.
Then I assume it would be no trouble to request an example of him employing this tactic against a relevant opponent?
"If his strength comes from his connection to the Force, then you must undermine that connection, master."
"How would I do that?"
"Doubt, master. It has killed many Jedi, and it has killed many Sith. Make him doubt himself, his beliefs, or his intentions. Such things disrupt connections to the Force - and death soon follows."
Funnily enough, that's exactly what Dooku does to **** over Skywalker.
No, I don't have an example because Revan's adventures during the MW and JCW are ambiguous and not complete.
However, I do have numerous quotes highlighting both Revan's tactics and quotes saying he knows how to break Jedi.
And that's good enough for me.
Oh? You're telling me that there wasn't an alternative explanation for Vitiate's silence in the new expansion?
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
Then it means that he wouldn't.
Using telepathy in a battle against Skywalker is much different against someone like Vitiate.
The fact I have to specify that makes me upset.
Anakin is not some random Rakata,
The species is, in many ways, immune to the Force.
Revan as of KotOR failed to affect the One or the Elders with telepathy, despite the fact he was able to mind trick Hutts and what not earlier on in his travels.
Yet that didn't stop Darth Revan from doing what he did.
and this fight doesn't take place on Malachor.
Your position has no grounds to stand on.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The text has Dooku discovering Skywalker's fear and then deciding to use it against him by taunting him about it.It has nothing to do with an extensive history with Skywalker. Anyone remotely proficient at Force sense and Don Moch could replicate it.
Possible. Or it could backfire royally like it did in the film adaptation of RotS. Taunting Anakin is a risky game--especially without Dooku's years of personal history to draw on, no?
No, I don't have an example because Revan's adventures during the MW and JCW are ambiguous and not complete.However, I do have numerous quotes highlighting both Revan's tactics and quotes saying he knows how to break Jedi.
And that's good enough for me.
Conveniently for me, the Revan who had "adventures" during the Mandalorian and Jedi Civil wars isn't the Revan who we're discussing, and the Revan that came afterward never once employed such tactics.
Hm?
Hint: Zakuul. 🙂
Using telepathy in a battle against Skywalker is much different against someone like Vitiate.
And Malak? 🙄
You didn't even take that golden opportunity to make a high ground joke? Words can not describe my disappointment.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Dooku could easily sense the inner turmoil within Skywalker. Hell, even when watching Holovideos, Luke and Jacen could visibly *see* it.Revan, who's foremost teachings to the Sith Assassins was to how to break the minds of the Jedi they fought, is going to use that to his advantage.
"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger. But he is not stable. You know it. We all do."
Right.
It wasn't.
Not true, given Revan was also simultaneously defending his own mind and power from Vitiate and the Dread Master's meddling.
There's a massive distinction between couldn't and didn't. The fact he didn't doesn't mean he couldn't.
Having his power radiate and maintain a galactic disturbance in the Force, telepathically broadcasting a vision to Tari Darkspanner across the galaxy, and ripping information from the skulls of the Rakata and then implanting them with that of his own (note the Rakata are a highly-Force resistant species, with KotOR Revan failing to use mind tricks on them) also come to mind. As does his feat in Malachor V and corrupting hundreds of Jedi.
Given a simple taunt by Dooku was literally Skywalker's undoing, I'd be more concerned if Skywalker doesn't bash his head against a wall willingly after confronting someone like Revan.
Yawn.