Ultra Boy Vs Orion

No prep.
No BFR.
Standard gear.

Orion. I dunno if I'd say stomps, but pretty decisively. Maybe stomps going by that version.

Ultra boy just makes no sense.

He can somewhat hang with guys around Orion's level, but it just makes no sense to me. When he's throwing punches and activates his super-strength then he shouldn't have any speed and it should be easy as **** for Orion to counter it.

Interesting. Hope to get more feedback.

Orion stomps.

Devil's advocate:

Could Orion get through UBs FF (if he chose to use it. Standard gear.)?
UBs been shown to do well against top tiers, regardless.

If you have super strength you shoulld be fast aka Hulk super strong legs should make him since he is only 1000pounds

Originally posted by krisblaze
Ultra boy just makes no sense.

He can somewhat hang with guys around Orion's level, but it just makes no sense to me. When he's throwing punches and activates his super-strength then he shouldn't have any speed and it should be easy as **** for Orion to counter it.

This plusbwhy doesnt he break abd arm ofnfist whennhe strikes things with Super strength or speed.

Orion should win convincingly

Haha, i love UB threads; they hurt people's heads.

Orion, easily.

^^^that only applies 1 out of every 100 times its said, and certainly not this time.

Orion.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^that only applies 1 out of every 100 times its said, and certainly not this time.

Orion is equal to or better than Ultra Boy in every stat, can use them all at once, is more skilled, and has the Astro Force.

In what possible way could he lose that isn't PIS/CIS?

In what possible way can he win "easily"? Its a stupid thing to say, as it's hardly ever true.

Originally posted by riv6672
Haha, i love UB threads; they hurt people's heads.

You should see the Karate Kid threads.

Originally posted by riv6672
Devil's advocate:

Could Orion get through UBs FF (if he chose to use it. Standard gear.)?
UBs been shown to do well against top tiers, regardless.

Huh? I don't recall Ultra Boy having it standard, and I'm not sure I'd say that's him having a force field.

Thats NOT him having a FF, that point had nothing to do with the scan, sorry for any confusion.
abhi and i went at this, and apparently Legion flight rings incorporate B5 FF tech, one of the best FFs in comics.
The scan was about him doing well against a top tier.

Originally posted by riv6672
Thats NOT him having a FF, that point had nothing to do with the scan, sorry for any confusion.

OHHHHHH!! OK.

Originally posted by riv6672
abhi and i went at this, and apparently Legion flight rings incorporate B5 FF tech, one of the best FFs in comics.
The scan was about him doing well against a top tier.

I know what you're talking about. Not the same LofSH as the one in either the Ultra Boy pic or the fight with the Wonder Woman construct.

But if we were to go with that, Orion would have to use Mother Box to get around it, I'd think.

^^^Agree. 👆

One drawback about using LoSH characters (and scans) are the reboots.
Still, like someone posted, rule of thumb is they dont lose/gain anything version to version unless specifically shown to (like White to Black Witch definitely gained).

In theory, Ultra Boy could win using speed. He's faster than Orion.

In practice, he loses consistently.