Apocalypse/Kurse vs. Doomsday/Superman

Started by Silent Master8 pages

This is a debate thread, therefore since you are unable to back up your statement. it can be ignored as the ramblings of a fanboy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This is a debate thread, therefore since you are unable to back up your statement. it can be ignored as the ramblings of a fanboy.
Then debate and stop whining. I asked a question back to you.

Asking you to back up your claim is debating, not whining. so if you really want to debate. start backing up your claims.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Why do you say Team 1 and with ease? What exactly do you see Apoc doing to the other two?

First off, the ease in which Kurse dealt with Thor, leads me to believe he's right there with Superman when it comes to strength. Based on feats Superman is stronger, but feats are the only thing we can go by. There is also something called implied power or power scaling that can be used. For example, Odin doesn't have strength feats that can compare to Cap, does that mean I believe Cap is stronger? Absolutely not. The way Kurse treated Thor, was as if he was a mere child. So when you powerscale that up, we get near Superman imo. Plus Kurse is unquestionably for durable based on feats.

Then we have the issue of Apoc, and I honestly don't know what they are even going to do to him. He's so versatile in his powers and abilities that it puts team 2 to shame. Literally. To say nothing of DD getting BFR'd right away. Then that leaves superman against Apco and Kurse... yeah, goodnight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Asking you to back up your claim is debating, not whining. so if you really want to debate. start backing up your claims.
You first.

Originally posted by Kotor3
You first.

That isn't how debates work, you made the original claim, that means the burden is on you.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First off, the ease in which Kurse dealt with Thor, leads me to believe he's right there with Superman when it comes to strength. Based on feats Superman is stronger, but feats are the only thing we can go by. There is also something called implied power or power scaling that can be used. For example, Odin doesn't have strength feats that can compare to Cap, does that mean I believe Cap is stronger? Absolutely not. The way Kurse treated Thor, was as if he was a mere child. So when you powerscale that up, we get near Superman imo. Plus Kurse is unquestionably for durable based on feats.

Then we have the issue of Apoc, and I honestly don't know what they are even going to do to him. He's so versatile in his powers and abilities that it puts team 2 to shame. Literally. To say nothing of DD getting BFR'd right away. Then that leaves superman against Apco and Kurse... yeah, goodnight.

Apoc is where you an I differ. While his powers are versatile, I don't see them being able to take out DD or Superman. DD or Superman could fling him into outer space with one toss. They could easily blitz him. This being a fight where they aren't holding back I don't see Apoc being an issue.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That isn't how debates work, you made the original claim, that means the burden is on you.
You really are going to keep going back and forth aren't you. Okay. Its a stomp because that is what DD and Superman do. Your counter.

Originally posted by Kotor3
You really are going to keep going back and forth aren't you. Okay. Its a stomp because that is what DD and Superman do. Your counter.

Restating your opinion isn't the same thing as backing up your statement. so, since you are unable to do so. we can all ignore your statement as the fanboy ramblings it was.

Aren't you being a bit of a hypocrite? In a previous thread KuRuPT Thanosi asked you to provide evidence of fighting a large animal or dog and it being easy (something you said you did). A feat you used in the context of the thread. You never provided any evidence just said he was whining.

I answered your question. You evidently do not have an counter. You have done nothing but asked questions throughout the whole thread. So I accept you concession. As usual you have nothing reasonable to provide to any debate.

I get that you're not very smart, but people don't go around filming themselves 24/7, so asking for proof of a random event in their life is rather intellectually dishonest.

However, what I'm asking you for is to back up a statement you made in regards to characters from movies. movies being things that have been recorded.

Double standards I see. If you are having memory issues and don't want to provide info on life events then don't use them in a debate to try to lower a feat for another character. Especially ones you can't remember.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Double standards I see. If you are having memory issues and don't want to provide info on life events then don't use them in a debate to try to lower a feat for another character. Especially ones you can't remember.

I can remember the feat just fine, however seeing as I have no video of it, kt would just claim I was lying, IOW. kt was just trolling me. kind of like what you're doing now, just so you can avoid backing up your claim about things that we do have video of.

Come on Kotor, it's silent, the resident troll. He always asks for proof and never provides any of his own.

In the very thread you mention, he specifically used his "personal" showing against Dogs to imply that fighting off large animals isn't as hard as you were implying. Thus Tarzan's feat wasn't impressive. Knowing that story sounded like bullshit, and coming from the source made it even more suspect, I inquired about the specifics of these encounters silent said he had. I got nothing. I never asked for a video, I just asked for specifics and context behind his statement. Nothing. Now we all know it was bs, but that doesnt' change the fact that he was unwilling or unable to provide facts/context to back up his claim.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Come on Kotor, it's silent, the resident troll. He always asks for proof and never provides any of his own.

In the very thread you mention, he specifically used his "personal" showing against Dogs to imply that fighting off large animals isn't as hard as you were implying. Thus Tarzan's feat wasn't impressive. Knowing that story sounded like bullshit, and coming from the source made it even more suspect, I inquired about the specifics of these encounters silent said he had. I got nothing. I never asked for a video, I just asked for specifics and context behind his statement. Nothing. Now we all know it was bs, but that doesnt' change the fact that he was unwilling or unable to provide facts/context to back up his claim.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
I can remember the feat just fine, however seeing as I have no video of it, kt would just claim I was lying, IOW. kt was just trolling me. kind of like what you're doing now, just so you can avoid backing up your claim about things that we do have video of.
So, people in this forum post videos to prove their points? More whining. I said they stomp because that is what they do. I will add something else, because they can because they are more powerful.

Any counters?

No, I used Tarzan's feats themselves to show that they weren't that impressive. kotor then tried to use the IRL argument, so I mention my personal exp.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, I used Tarzan's feats themselves to show that they weren't that impressive. kotor then tried to use the IRL argument, so I mention my personal exp.
No you didn't. You question me as to why I made a statement. Then when I explain, you made some stupid comment about it sounds the same as the basic of fighting, punching and dodging. When I showed your ignorance in that area you made an comment even more stupid stating that you have been attacked by animals before an it is no big deal.

Then you got called out on that one and have yet to provide a single piece of evidence.

The only ignorance you've shown is your own.

Look I accept you concession. You obviously do not want to have a serious debate (because we both know how that would go). Instead you want to go back and forth. How do they not stomp, really. DD solos.