Originally posted by psycho gundam
1) Your first scan shows Vector repelling less than one ton at once which is largely below anything Kenshiro has done.
2) Your second scan is completely pointless.
3) Kenshiro did that:
This is at the very least hundreds of cubic metre of water per second.
One cubic metre is around 1000 kg which is already above Vector's limits of TK power.
Kenshiro stomps.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
1) Your first scan shows Vector repelling less than one ton at once which is largely below anything Kenshiro has done.2) Your second scan is completely pointless.
3) Kenshiro did that:
This is at the very least hundreds of cubic metre of water per second.
One cubic metre is around 1000 kg which is already above Vector's limits of TK power.
Kenshiro stomps.
Vector's limits on a TK in the databooks are a joke. An obvious sign of the comic book writers not understating scale. It's the same with the Class 100 system. It's never made any sense whatsoever. As those Class 100s lift way more than a hundred tons.
Incredible Hulk #274
Secret Wars #4
Originally posted by RealityWarper
1) Your first scan shows Vector repelling less than one ton at once which is largely below anything Kenshiro has done.2) Your second scan is completely pointless.
3) Kenshiro did that:
This is at the very least hundreds of cubic metre of water per second.
One cubic metre is around 1000 kg which is already above Vector's limits of TK power.
Kenshiro stomps.
👆 Nice scans.
Originally posted by Sharivan
Vector's limits on a TK in the databooks are a joke. An obvious sign of the comic book writers not understating scale. It's the same with the Class 100 system. It's never made any sense whatsoever. As those Class 100s lift way more than a hundred tons.Incredible Hulk #274
Secret Wars #4
Ludicrous logic.
You can't make correlation between Hulk's strength and Vector's TK power because there is none.
You are the one not understanding the scale, the comic books, the characters and the powers.
Have a good day. XD
About the Class 100+:
"Brian, THE OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE says the Hulk is Superhuman Class 100+. Which means he can lift at least 100 tons."
It seems that you don't understand the meaning of "at least".
Vector never lifted more than ten times the weight he can lift with his TK powers.
Kenshiro destroys him effortlessly.
Originally posted by cdtm
👆 Nice scans.
Thanks bro.
How come that users like Sharivan are allowed on KMC ?
He only relies on hyperbolic statements and don't understand the context of his own claims.
I mean that's because of people like him that comic books fans looks bad when looked from the outside...
They haven't proven anything, and he is once again pulling numbers out of his behind without understanding what they mean.
Vector is more powerful here. He is the one who managed to give the Hulk problems, and tear his skin off. He is the who accidentally destroyed the fabric of reality.
Kenshiro's telekinesis is positively nothing compared to that.
Originally posted by Sharivan
No, it's clearly not. What is described to happen and what we see happens confirms this.
Can you please stop polluting all threads with your nonsenses ?
Go back to school learn what a figure of speech is...
Well, maybe you are already in it and don't understand what is it...
Originally posted by Sharivan
They haven't proven anything, and he is once again pulling numbers out of his behind without understanding what they mean.
I did some estimations which are correct even not precise.
Vector is more powerful here.
Yeah sure.
Vector's weight is 196 lbs and he has a normal strength means that he can't probably life more than his own weight at best if I'm generous.
If we go that way, according that his power allows him to lift 10 times what he can lift under his own physical strength...
We can understand that, at best, Vector is able to repel 1960 lbs of matter which is completely ridiculous compared to what Kenshiro has done with his own TK.
He is the one who managed to give the Hulk problems, and tear his skin off.
Which is unimpressive considering how light the skin is and how little his weight is.
He is the who accidentally destroyed the fabric of reality.
Hyperbolic statement.
Kenshiro's telekinesis is positively nothing compared to that.
And you accused me of bias ?
Take off your fanboy glasses.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Ludicrous logic.You can't make correlation between Hulk's strength and Vector's TK power because there is none.
You are the one not understanding the scale, the comic books, the characters and the powers.
Have a good day. XD
About the Class 100+:
"Brian, THE OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE says the Hulk is Superhuman Class 100+. Which means he can lift at least 100 tons."
It seems that you don't understand the meaning of "at least".
Vector never lifted more than ten times the weight he can lift with his TK powers.
Kenshiro destroys him effortlessly.
This is what you said:
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Here we go with the post in close-up:"Brian, THE OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE says the Hulk is Superhuman Class 100+. Which means he can lift at least 100 tons."
Hilariously, Kenshiro lifted easily a 300 tons rock which would put him in the Superhuman Class 300+ at the very least...
You specifically brought that in up in order to to say that Kenshiro is stronger than the Hulk. When the Hulk's strength is far, far above being "at least a hundred tons."
You dishonest sack of shit.
Originally posted by Sharivan
This is what you said:You specifically brought that in up in order to to say that Kenshiro is stronger than the Hulk. When the Hulk's strength is far, far above being "at least a hundred tons."
You dishonest sack of shit.
Nope.
I brought that to say that Kenshiro is a Superhuman Class100+.
That's all.
So much anger in that reply.
I guess that I touched a pressure-point. LOL
You are too emotional to continue to debate with me.
So far you only relied on fan-made explanation and strawman arguments like this one.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Thanks bro.How come that users like Sharivan are allowed on KMC ?
He only relies on hyperbolic statements and don't understand the context of his own claims.
I mean that's because of people like him that comic books fans looks bad when looked from the outside...
How come troglodytes such as RealityWarper are allowed free reign in KMC when they break the board rules, and lie through their teeth?
How come they get to ignore what is obviously not hyperbole, and get to invent their own narrative about something that makes no sense?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I did some estimations which are correct even not precise.
They're neither.
Yeah sure.Vector's weight is 196 lbs and he has a normal strength means that he can't probably life more than his own weight at best if I'm generous.
We have been, and are talking about his telekinesis. This is what an actual straw man is. What's you're doing right here. You freaking hypocrite.
The databook garbage does not fit into this as it makes no sense.
If we go that way, according that his power allows him to lift 10 times what he can lift under his own physical strength...We can understand that, at best, Vector is able to repel 1960 lbs of matter which is completely ridiculous compared to what Kenshiro has done with his own TK.
Dishonestly using databooks once again.
In that case Kenshiro is barely superhuman in terms of speed. You know that, as I already made clear to you.
The Hulk's strength and durability is what matters there as he was pushing against Vector's TK. Which strained him, and tore his skin off.
Which is unimpressive considering how light the skin is and how little his weight is.
That's not the point. The Hulk has superhuman strength and durability far exceeding Kenshiro's. Which is the actual point.
Hyperbolic statement.
No, it ****ing isn't.
I swear I could show you someone destroying a planet, and the narration saying it was destroyed; but you would still argue that as hyperbolic if it doesn't suit your side of an argument.
And you accused me of bias ?Take off your fanboy glasses.
You said that Kenshiro could "beat Luke Cage, Spiderman, Iron Fist, Thing, Ares with his axe, Hercules, the Savage Hulk, WW Hulk, the Flash, and Superman at the same time."
I am not the fanboy.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nope.
Yes, you did.
You tried to say he had a higher base strength then the Hulk.
Don't try to back-peddle out of this.
I brought that to say that Kenshiro is a Superhuman Class100+.
Which is irrelevant unless you want to say he is a Class 1000000000+. As that's the category the Hulk is in.
That's all.
No, that's not all. You tried to act as if it was relevant, and would win Kenshiro this match when it doesn't.
So much anger in that reply.
It's normal when dealing with blatant liars.
I guess that I touched a pressure-point. LOLYou are too emotional to continue to debate with me.
So far you only relied on fan-made explanation and strawman arguments like this one.
They're not fan made explanations. They're things that actually happen in the story, and the only thing you brought in counter to it is Marvel's hilariously inconsistent databooks. As well as writer statements that show how little they understand of scale.
Originally posted by Sharivan
How come troglodytes such as RealityWarper are allowed free reign in KMC when they break the board rules, and lie through their teeth?How come they get to ignore what is obviously not hyperbole, and get to invent their own narrative about something that makes no sense?
They're neither.
We have been, and are talking about his telekinesis. This is what an actual straw man is. What's you're doing right here. You freaking hypocrite.
The databook garbage does not fit into this as it makes no sense.
Dishonestly using databooks once again.
In that case Kenshiro is barely superhuman in terms of speed. You know that, as I already made clear to you.
The Hulk's strength and durability is what matters there as he was pushing against Vector's TK. Which strained him, and tore his skin off.
That's not the point. The Hulk has superhuman strength and durability far exceeding Kenshiro's. Which is the actual point.
No, it ****ing isn't.
I swear I could show you someone destroying a planet, and the narration saying it was destroyed; but you would still argue that as hyperbolic if it doesn't suit your side of an argument.
You said that Kenshiro could "beat Luke Cage, Spiderman, Iron Fist, Thing, Ares with his axe, Hercules, the Savage Hulk, WW Hulk, the Flash, and Superman at the same time."
I am not the fanboy.
Yes, you did.
You tried to say he had a higher base strength then the Hulk.
Don't try to back-peddle out of this.
Which is irrelevant unless you want to say he is a Class 1000000000+. As that's the category the Hulk is in.
No, that's not all. You tried to act as if it was relevant, and would win Kenshiro this match when it doesn't.
It's normal when dealing with blatant liars.
They're not fan made explanations. They're things that actually happen in the story, and the only thing you brought in counter to it is Marvel's hilariously inconsistent databooks. As well as writer statements that show how little they understand of scale.
ROFL.
Your salt is real.
At this point you are so out of arguments that I will not even bother reading your posts.
Have a good day. 🙂
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Can you please stop polluting all threads with your nonsenses ?Go back to school learn what a figure of speech is...
Well, maybe you are already in it and don't understand what is it...
Can you stop being a complete idiot, and a hypocrite?
Can you stop lying through your teeth, and trying to dodge the fact you tried to say Kenshiro's strength is relevant here when it's not?
Can you even bother to understand how freaking nonsensical the databooks are?
Can you acknowledge how incompetent comic book writers are when it comes to things such as this?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
ROFL.Your salt is real.
At this point you are so out of arguments that I will not even bother reading your posts.
Have a good day. 🙂
Your arguments don't even consist of anything of substance, and rely on databooks and writer statements. That are specifically against the rules to use.
As they are notoriously inconsistent, and no real thought was put in them.
You know, screw it. I am reporting you again.
Originally posted by cdtm
Hulk has really low piercing resist, though.And I believe the captain of the Hulk fanboy club himself, Carver, actually sided with Ken in that tournament that included Hulk.
How does telekinetically "pushing" someone even count as piercing?
I disagree with Carver then. As Kenshiro can't hurt the Hulk to begin with because I will be damned if Kenshiro has the strength needed to press his pressure points or can ignore the fact his thunderclaps can destroy pocket dimensions.
As well the fact Hulk has a bunch of showings against many different intangibles.