Darth Traya & the Exile Run The Revan Gauntlet

Started by AncientPower3 pages

He says, or at least implies that, numerous times over. The real question being, which Jedi of significance has Scourge met that the Exile would be greater than.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That Revan and the Exile were the strongest Jedi Scourge had met before the HoT.

Not really "insane hype" at all. And it's hardly new, lol.

Ant, I'll get the quotes for you later.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He says, or at least implies that, numerous times over. The real question being, which Jedi of significance has Scourge met that the Exile would be greater than.

Basically it just means she's better than the hundred or so Jedi that the Emperor deemed "too powerful" and had Scourge kill.

It's honestly not as good as the HoT claiming that only Revan, the Exile and himself had been able to resist the Emperor, and Scourge conceding to that.

Indeed, very impressive, that isn't the most impressive thing he implies. He admits, pretty clearly that Revan, the Hero and the Exile are all of greater quality than any Sith he'd met due to their ability to resist the Emperor. He also makes it fairly clear that the three of them are the most powerful Jedi bar none.

Well, Scourge acknowledges that any similarly powerful Sith who could challenge the Emperor are either killed whilst young or co-opted into the Dark Council, so the Exile wouldn't be able to be scaled off DC members. Everybody else, probably.

True, it is ironic that her own killer is the one that affords her some of her greatest accolades.

It's interesting that the Exile was able to "resist" the Emperor (is this as a Ghost, or what?). I know Revan & HoT do resist the Emperor, but only on their second time. The first time, they're both dominated. It's a pretty good accolade, since Scourge and the Hero were both talking about general power and not just mental strength or willpower as you might expect from the wording.

I doubt she actually did. The Hero wouldn't know either way.

Yeah, that's what I thought at first. But it seems like a moment of authorial intent for me, especially considering that Scourge not only fails to contradict the HoT, but actually agrees with him and concedes the point.

At the very least, he's agreeing with the HoT that Revan, Surik and HoT > all Jedi/Sith from the novel up to the game.

No.

Yeah. Scourge conceded to it. You should too 👆

He still confirms that Revan, the Exile and HoT are essentially > any other Jedi/Sith he knows of (except DC members) from the novel's end to the start of Act 3.

Quote me where in the Revan novel Vitiate telepathically attacks the Exile.

Doubt it.

We don't know if the Emperor attempted anything, all we know is he 'measured' the Exile. But that's Scourge's POV of the fight. Given the Emperor casually breaks Jedi with his presence, we may never know.

The fact remains, the Exile is far more powerful than people like to claim off of some poor interpretation of a two page encounter.

The part where Scourge concedes to the point and doesn't even try to correct the HoT 👆

Watch the conversation again. It's about general strength, not mental strength. The Hero means "resist" as in "stand up" to the Emperor and not be instantly cast down.

https://youtu.be/HNto5fIGMV0?t=207

Either way, Scourge directly states afterwards that in three centuries, nobody else was on their level except those who were killed early before they could reach that stage, and Dark Council members.

Yes, they are debating the strengths of the Sith and the Jedi, Scourge claims Jedi mind washing doesn't leave anybody with a back bone and hopes the Hero is still young enough to 'cultivate the strength of the Sith'. Hero counters by saying herself, Revan and the Exile are the only ones who've ever been capable of facing the Emperor, yet they were all Jedi trained, whereas no Sith has ever done so.

And Scourge concedes to that 👆

Gotta love powerscaling.

Traya > Baras > Fulminiss

Traya > Ekkage > Wyylett > All TOR Council members.

Originally posted by SunRazer
And Scourge concedes to that 👆

The fact he doesn't correct him doesn't make the point null. Revan and him still resisted the Emperor. Scourge would just be nitpicking unnecessarily.