As a proud owner of firearms, there should be common sense to a point - mentally ill should not be allowed to have weapons.
Contrary to popular opinion, there is no such thing as a civilian "assault weapon." What people don't realize is that a 30-06, .308 hunting rifle is far more powerful than an AR-15. An AR-15 is designed to look military type. A handgun, if equipped with FMJ hollow point rounds can tear through Kevlar. If you are gonna gripe, know your shite
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
As a proud owner of firearms, there should be common sense to a point - mentally ill should not be allowed to have weapons.Contrary to popular opinion, there is no such thing as a civilian "assault weapon." What people don't realize is that a 30-06, .308 hunting rifle is far more powerful than an AR-15. An AR-15 is designed to look military type. A handgun, if equipped with FMJ hollow point rounds can tear through Kevlar. If you are gonna gripe, know your shite
Not just a matter of power, you can kill someone with a .22.
If you're a lunatic set to shoot up some crowded area like a school or a mall, what's going to net you faster kills, the more powerful bolt-action rifle, or the less powerful semi-auto? Exactly.
So I guess we should ban semis trucks now, after all, wasn't one used in French to kill nearly 80 people?
There should be no, a truck is just an object, and we used to make life easier arguments.
While we're add it, let's also ban alcohol. Since we know for a fact that alcohol takes more lives in a year than any gun.
****ing common sense right?!
Originally posted by Scribble
America's supply and demand system isn't reliant on guns though, people don't drive guns to work.Not taking a side, just saying that this is a pretty bad example.
I see where you're coming from, but from my point of view, if you're wanting to ban something I love because of others mistreatment of it, then when we as a society should also ban the other objects that have killed more humans than my object of enjoyment.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not just a matter of power, you can kill someone with a .22.If you're a lunatic set to shoot up some crowded area like a school or a mall, what's going to net you faster kills, the more powerful bolt-action rifle, or the less powerful semi-auto? Exactly.
And then there's also bombs whose recipes assembly instructions can be gleaned right off the open internet.
If a lunatic is going to kill people, a lunatic can succeed if they are just average in intelligence.
I believe it was Symmetric Chaos that said we should do something reasonable enough to prevent someone from killing tons of people (we were talking about RPGs and RPG Launchers). So I think I agree with that gun control idea: don't let people have things absurdly powerful like RPGs? I guess?
The uk has gun control AND a ban on knives. You know what? There is still knife crime and gun crime.
You know what else? People have killed people with knives and machetes and guns and everything. It isnt the gun. Its crazy people. Sort out your crazy people first.
Guns are safe. If they were as dangerous as people make them out to be, considering the number of gun owners in the world (canada, japan and norway also like guns) there would be millions more homicides and suicides and manslaughters than the shit we hear already.
Originally posted by WithsensibilityYouTube video
Guns are safe.
Originally posted by Scribble
What problems are those?
I don't know, how about Muslims killing you're own and the British people are too cowardly to do anything about.
Wasn't it a year or 2 that a Muslims cut off the head of a soldier in the middle of the street and you people didn't do shit about it.
Originally posted by SquallXWell, he got arrested and put in jail, so there's that. What else should we do? Kill all Muslims so they won't hurt us again? Why don't you guys just kill all gun owners so that no more mass shootings happen? (That'd be ****ing stupid, that's why.) I don't really see a couple of attacks here and there as being worse than the amount of shootings that happen in America. Of course these two issues are different and complex in their own way, but it's not like America (I won't refer to you as "you people"😉 have done anything to curb your almost-constant massacres.
I don't know, how about Muslims killing you're own and the British people are too cowardly to do anything about.Wasn't it a year or 2 that a Muslims cut off the head of a soldier in the middle of the street and you people didn't do shit about it.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseI agree with that. Our economic system is pretty much in shambles right now. Our government is highly corrupt and run by people with lots of ties to the richest people in the country. Our new Prime Minister has been known in the past to overhype issues so that the security company her husband owns major shares in can get contracts and make money. And we have about four years until our next general election. So yeah, we might be pretty screwed.
Their economy is shit. They're one fiscally irresponsible decision away from collapse the way of Greece or 2008 US.
Originally posted by SquallX
So I guess we should ban semis trucks now, after all, wasn't one used in French to kill nearly 80 people?There should be no, a truck is just an object, and we used to make life easier arguments.
While we're add it, let's also ban alcohol. Since we know for a fact that alcohol takes more lives in a year than any gun.
****ing common sense right?!
It's reactions like this why we can't have a reasonable discourse on gun control reform, the opposite end of the spectrum is the "Ban all guns! Melt them all down!" ranters.
Originally posted by dadudemon
And then there's also bombs whose recipes assembly instructions can be gleaned right off the open internet.If a lunatic is going to kill people, a lunatic can succeed if they are just average in intelligence.
I believe it was Symmetric Chaos that said we should do something reasonable enough to prevent someone from killing tons of people (we were talking about RPGs and RPG Launchers). So I think I agree with that gun control idea: don't let people have things absurdly powerful like RPGs? I guess?
Hey, ddm, long time no see. Doing well?
Seems your point is that we already have reasonanble gun control laws(ie rps are illegal)? Considering the amount of gun related deaths in the US, I dissagree, I believe we as a nation can do better. I don't pretend to have the answers, but stone-walling any talks of gun control like the NRA pushes isn't it. Other countries lowered their gun related deaths, no reason we shouldn't be able to either.