Originally posted by NephthysNo, you dont understand. Crime rates always increase when theres more black people near because they are uncivilised. Countries with little to no black people have lower crime rates than countries with higher percentage of black people and when more black people go to those cities or countries, the crime rate increases.
Ok, so white people keep shooting each other. Does that not count as racially homogeneous?
Its just a fact.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
They are. They're also good for cutting steaks. And various other tasks that don't involve ending a life.Guns don't cut steak. Guns have one function: kill people. Kill 'em good and dead Skeeter!
Guns also made for hunting too you know?
But I do love you're double standard.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
They are. They're also good for cutting steaks. And various other tasks that don't involve ending a life.Guns don't cut steak. Guns have one function: kill people. Kill 'em good and dead Skeeter!
So that makes Knives even WORSE! They can be used for a purpose they were NOT DESIGNED FOR!
We need Knife Control NOW!
We must protect the children.
Originally posted by SquallXHunting. So killing things then? If removing the thing that is designed only to kill and which has lead to 9,272 deaths in 2016 in the U.S. (so far) means that the community of people who like to kill things can no longer easily blow holes in their favourite things that breathe, then I say it's a small sacrifice to make. Save some human lives, save some animal lives, piss off people who kill things for sport. Win Win Win.
Guns also made for hunting too you know?But I do love you're double standard.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So that makes Knives even WORSE! They can be used for a purpose they were NOT DESIGNED FOR!We need Knife Control NOW!
We must protect the children.
[/B]
Well at the very least I think we can agree that you should steer clear of knives. And other sharp objects. Maybe stairs.
Originally posted by SquallX
Guns also made for hunting too you know?But I do love you're double standard.
Then people should be able to apply for a hunting license if thats what they want to do. It shouldn't be difficult for them to take classes and training on how to safely use a gun. Then they could have a permit to carry while hunting.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Hunting. So killing things then? If removing the thing that is designed only to kill and which has lead to 9,272 deaths in 2016 in the U.S. (so far) means that the community of people who like to kill things can no longer easily blow holes in their favourite things that breathe, then I say it's a small sacrifice to make. Save some human lives, save some animal lives, piss off people who kill things for sport. Win Win Win.
Ah yes, because removing something means the cause is going to stop, as opposed to not removing it (and thereby only giving government agents the right to use firearms), and changing the culture, like Switzerland and Israel.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Or Japan. Remember a little while back I lamented that no matter what law is enacted or policy proposed, America will never get over it's little gun sickness? The country and it's people just aren't capable of it.
Sure, but what you said in no way denotes reality. We don't have a gun sickness (implying love of owning guns) anymore than Switzerland or Israel, who according to you, would have even more a sickness. There's a huge middle ground between "don't touch my guns" and "lets ban all guns".
Originally posted by MS WarehouseIt's not the simple desire to have them, or even the amount of guns that I disparage. It's the attitude. It's the context. Switzerland and Israel are two small, traditionally isolated countries with nation-wide conscription and alot of potential neighboring enemy nations to fight against---for Israel, it still is an active threat in the modern age. Their respective stockpiling and maintenance of civilian firearms has a practical, essential purpose toward their countries' very survival.
Sure, but what you said in no way denotes reality. We don't have a gun sickness (implying love of owning guns) anymore than Switzerland or Israel, who according to you, would have even more a sickness. There's a huge middle ground between "don't touch my guns" and "lets ban all guns".
The United States... is not like that. At all. Not even close. Your gun culture is one of obsession. The mere suggestion that the laws be tampered evokes visceral rage. I'm not using the term 'sickness' as a pejorative. Your gun deaths per 100,000 people are 10.54. Switzerland and Israel's is 3.08 and 2.10, respectively. They love their guns just as much as you guys do, but I think for very different reasons. There's a reason those ratios are so far apart from another (and they're all too damn high IMO). Given the sheer amount of firearms in all three countries, you'd expect them to be a little closer. What's different is the attitude. Americans treat their guns like a hobby (look at SquallX's "gotta hunt!" up there). They f*cking shouldn't be.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh gosh. Is there anything we can do about this?
Okay so I'm only half with him here. I live in Chicago and I know about the crime and yes I know who is responsible for a majority of it. However, I don't feel any specific race is inferior. A culture can be inferior, but not a race.
I can't speak for other countries, but yes he is sort of right when he says crime rates increase as a neighborhood gets more and more..well, you see shit, speaking the truth shouldn't be racist but I still feel hesitant to say certain things.
I mean saying the more black people that move into a neighborhood the worse that neighborhood gets sounds awful. I don't actually like saying that.
Okay, you people REALLY dont understand this, so ill step in seriously this time.
First of all, im in favour of gun control. Just like everything else thats dangerous and lethal, there needs to be laws to restrict misuse, for example, drivers who dont abide by traffic laws, and knives that arent cutting steak. Naturally, hunting licenses and gun restrictions to minors and felons is common sense. There's just this history lesson you need to remember.
The founding fathers of the United States would never have formed an independent country that has become the world leading role had it not been for their weapons. This is not to say guns are good at advancing far, they are, but the point is more that it founded the country from an oppressive monarchy trying to tax the people.
Whether they were entitled to the taxes is another debate entirely, but it w the guns that ensured them the freedom. That is, nothing protects you from the government other than a gun. It is a protection of your right to live how you want. The gun, is your last line of defense and it is the protection of your liberties. Not the police, not the law, not some idealistic communist view of the world, its your gun. The right of the people to bare arms, shall not be infringed.
Originally posted by WithsensibilityBecause lord knows we all trust and bow to your great authority. Careful fellas, this one's the real deal!
Okay, you people REALLY dont understand this, so ill step in seriously this time.
Originally posted by WithsensibilitySo because something worked in a bygone era, it's going to work today? Your founding fathers fought a war and created a country with the right to bare arms when "arms" were muskets that highly trained troops took forever to load and fire a single, highly inaccurate, low-range spherical slug. Not semi-automatic assault rifles that send 30 conical rounds to an effective range of ~600m that any shmuck with a box of ammo and some free time can get in to a good grouping. Your constitution's "right to bare arms" is an outdated law from a time that couldn't predict the obstacles and dangers of the modern age. Dangers such as approximately one firearm per U.S. citizen. All 324 million of you.
First of all, im in favour of gun control. Just like everything else thats dangerous and lethal, there needs to be laws to restrict misuse, for example, drivers who dont abide by traffic laws, and knives that arent cutting steak. Naturally, hunting licenses and gun restrictions to minors and felons is common sense. There's just this history lesson you need to remember.The founding fathers of the United States would never have formed an independent country that has become the world leading role had it not been for their weapons. This is not to say guns are good at advancing far, they are, but the point is more that it founded the country from an oppressive monarchy trying to tax the people.
Whether they were entitled to the taxes is another debate entirely, but it w the guns that ensured them the freedom. That is, nothing protects you from the government other than a gun. It is a protection of your right to live how you want. The gun, is your last line of defense and it is the protection of your liberties. Not the police, not the law, not some idealistic communist view of the world, its your gun. The right of the people to bare arms, shall not be infringed.