Iron Fist vs. Midnighter

Originally posted by cdtm
P.S.

You should give the current series a try. It's basically a 90's style "buddy drama" show ala Lethal Weapon. Carefree, clueless and well meaning friend Danny wants to get the band back together, while responsible father Cage grudgingly indulges him because someone has to look out for the guy. Wacky hijinks ensue.

Really good stuff. Also brings the"hood rat" secondary characters and that "street justice" theme the original Power Man and Iron Fist had going for it, only better because of how it humanizes everyone, including villains like Tombstone. You're not an outsider looking down, you feel more like you're there with them, seeing their lives and getting to actually know them.

Seriously, it's the definition of "fresh".

I might try it. I do like nineties themed pieces.

The new IF series looks actually good. Like Immortal IF good. Don't care for the PM and IF, though.

IF wins and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

are you actually arguing with yourself? i think you have mental issues... anyway reported 🙂

Originally posted by Mindset
IF wins and I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

Danny beating Spidey+ tier Black Tarantula without even using the Iron Fist looks a lot more credible after seeing that fall, punctuated with a KER-SLAMM, in bold caps.

Proves it's not PIS, the writer just knows Danny's a badass.

Midnighter wins, every moves that Danny has planned will be countered.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Midnighter wins, every moves that Danny has planned will be countered.

Which doesn't necessarily mean every move you predict can be countered.

Or he wouldn't have been outplayed by Martian Manhunter. (Who, frankly, should be far too durable for Mids weak point hit to have done damage anyways. Unless anyone wants to argue he hits harder then an enraged WW III Black Adam.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Which doesn't necessarily mean every move you predict can be countered.

That's right and in that case which moves IF possess that can't be countered ?

Or he wouldn't have been outplayed by Martian Manhunter. (Who, frankly, should be far too durable for Mids weak point hit to have done damage anyways. Unless anyone wants to argue he hits harder then an enraged WW III Black Adam.)

The point was if MMH didn't squeeze his brain he would've died.

Midnighter perceveid MMH's weak point and exploited it.

I believe it was said that he moved it over some time ago, just in case.

Makes sense, when you consider he has a history of moving his soul into his hand in case he needs to chop it off and regrow a body.

But the while MN saw the weak point, he also failed to see it move. That proves the BC was working off some pre knowledge, and didn't detect his weakness in real time (Or he would have immediately known what MM was up to.)

Originally posted by cdtm
I believe it was said that he moved it over some time ago, just in case.

Makes sense, when you consider he has a history of moving his soul into his hand in case he needs to chop it off and regrow a body.

But the while MN saw the weak point, he also failed to see it move. That proves the BC was working off some pre knowledge, and didn't detect his weakness in real time (Or he would have immediately known what MM was up to.)

I agree

Originally posted by cdtm
Which doesn't necessarily mean every move you predict can be countered.

Or he wouldn't have been outplayed by Martian Manhunter. (Who, frankly, should be far too durable for Mids weak point hit to have done damage anyways. Unless anyone wants to argue he hits harder then an enraged WW III Black Adam.)

Iron Fist isn't MM. MM was using mind games on Stormwatch.

Originally posted by Zack M
Iron Fist isn't MM. MM was using mind games on Stormwatch.

Iron Fist is still a weakling.

Originally posted by Zack M
Iron Fist isn't MM. MM was using mind games on Stormwatch.

I'm not saying he's MM. I'm saying he has tricks that aren't well known/often used like his Iron Fist is. Say, infusing chi into a handful of dirt or piece of scrap metal, spraying the area with buckshot. Anything can become infused like this and used as a weapon.

Sure, MN can dodge bullets all day, but anyone can be caught unawares by a trick.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm not saying he's MM. I'm saying he has tricks that aren't well known/often used like his Iron Fist is. Say, infusing chi into a handful of dirt or piece of scrap metal, spraying the area with buckshot. Anything can become infused like this and used as a weapon.

Sure, MN can dodge bullets all day, but anyone can be caught unawares by a trick.

He uses his tricks quite often, actually. Used it on Martian Manhunter (Who was surprised, because it practically worked), used it on Apollo, used it against Grifter.

Midnighter should win this with minimal effort

Originally posted by RadZoa
Midnighter should win this with minimal effort

Yes. He can one-shot IF.

I'm just going to repost this, in case some people still think Danny is "street level".

Originally posted by cdtm

That ain't street. That's proof his durability is >>>>> street.

Originally posted by cdtm
I'm just going to repost this, in case some people still think Danny is "street level".

That ain't street. That's proof his durability is >>>>> street.

His durability is still street.

Marvel said that Danny is "enhanced human regenerative".

Enhanced human regenerative is the same kind that Wolverine, minus he needs to concentrate to heal his wounds to a far lesser degree than Wolverine and minus the adamantium skeleton.

Karnak is still above Danny in every category but the durability and he is at street-level.

Spider-man is above Danny in every category and he is street-level.

And Window >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danny's durability. XD

You think Daredevil or Nightwing would survive that fall?

Look at the scan. "KER-SLAMM". The writer didn't do that by accident, it's supposed to be a "Wow, how did he get up from that?" moment.

Originally posted by cdtm
You think Daredevil or Nightwing would survive that fall?

Look at the scan. "KER-SLAMM". The writer didn't do that by accident, it's supposed to be a "Wow, how did he get up from that?" moment.

Doesn't matter.

As far as I know Daredevil isn't enhanced in durability but he can beat Iron Fist in a one on one.