Best combatant .... can defeat

- All at their prime

Best combatant Count Dooku can defeat?

Best combatant Anakin can defeat?

Best combatant Asajj Ventress can defeat?

Best combatant Revan can defeat?

Best combatant Exar Kun can defeat?

Best combatant Shaak Ti can defeat?

Best combatant Darth Plagueis can defeat?

Traya, Maul, C'baoth, Wyyrlok, Mace.

Sub Obi Wan opponents.

Anakin. 😉

Vong Krayt.

Plagueis, TPM Sidious.

Anakin. 😉

Talzin maybe.

Windu
Anybody below ROTS Kenobi
Anakin, maybe Obi-Wan
Darth Caedus possibly, TPM Sidious, Darth Plaguies
Possibly Darth Vader
Not 100% sure.
Talzin, maybe TPM Sidious.

Can defeat, or would for a majority?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Can defeat, or would for a majority?

For a majority.

For Dooku - Darth Caedus
For Anakin - Dooku
For Ventress - Fisto
For Revan - Any version of Sidious
For Kun - Any version of Sidious
For Ti - Kolar
For Plagueis - TPM Sidious - possibly Rots Sidious - as it is not certain wether he's been surpassed yet

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Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Count Dooku can defeat?

Mace.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Anakin can defeat?

Vader, Krayt or Kun come into mind.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Asajj Ventress can defeat?

Fisto.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Revan can defeat?

Vader, Krayt or Kun.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Exar Kun can defeat?

Vader, Krayt or Revan(I have them all pretty damn close)

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Shaak Ti can defeat?

Rebels Ahsoka 👆

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Best combatant Darth Plagueis can defeat?

TPM Sidious.

lmfao Shaak isn't beating Rebels Ahsoka.

Stomping is a more appropriate phrase 👆

Shaak didn't compare to a hindered Anakin, lol. Ahsoka standing up to Vader on what is presumably a DS nexus blows her out of the water. TFU Shaak's stronger but not enough to make up for that discrepancy, let alone stomp.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Shaak didn't compare to a hindered Anakin, lol. Ahsoka standing up to Vader on what is presumably a DS nexus blows her out of the water. TFU Shaak's stronger but not enough to make up for that discrepancy, let alone stomp.

That hindered Anakin Fisto'ed Cin Drallig and was driving back Obi-Wan Kenobi. 👆
Not to mention we don't know how the fight went down, just that they possibly fought and Ti survived.

She didn't stand up to Vader any more than Ferus Olin, Celeste Morne or Jax Pavan did... She survived several exchanges, but got consistently driven back. And there's a pretty big disparity between EU Knightfall Anakin, and Canon Vader.

BTW, I didn't mean she'd stomp seriously, LMAO. But TFU Shaak wins.

1. Well, I can't remember the context of Shaak's fight with him (I think it was an unreliable flashback or something), so I'll let that go. But her fleeing was in recognition of her inability to stop him.

2. lol Ferus couldn't even see Vader, who had to toy with him for it to be a legitimate fight. Celeste Morne got absolutely curbed and Vader let her come up time and again, only to be knocked down every time. Ahsoka was actually trading blows and holding her own without Vader stopping to give her a chance to surrender or toying with her.

3. What gives TFU Shaak the ability to win?

1. We really don't see how the fight went down. We only know it happened because in the TFU comic we can see an angry Skywalker looking like he'll charge at her in a flashback that runs down all her achievements.

She could've fled because Anakin stormed the entire Temple and she was about to be overrun by Clones. I believe the TFU databank notes she bought time for padawans and Knights to escape and only fled when it became apparent the Temple was lost and there was no reason to fight on. It implies that she fought valiantly.

2. Fair enough on Ferus, but Celeste wasn't almost curbed. She's actually hurled back Vader a considerably distance -- more than Tano actually -- and had to deal with Karness Muur teasing her the entire fight.

3. So far, I don't see Tano as being a considerably better martial artist, if at all, nor quite as physically capable as Ti, nor quite as powerful.

Since when is Knightfall Vader hindered? mmm

1. Drallig fought valiantly too. I'll let it go. She's still his clear inferior, though.

2. She performed worse, lol. Vader gave her breaks repeatedly and she was probably enraged as well.

3. Yes, and based on what is she not better a fighter, and what makes you think Shaak has some sort of power edge that'll let her dominate this fight? Otherwise, skill will be the more important factor.

@Sel

The Jedi Temple was apparently a Light Side Nexus, but even on that, he still manages to blitz high-tier Jedi Masters like Cin Drallig and stomp hordes of Jedi, so... y'know, it shouldn't matter.

Originally posted by Selenial
Since when is Knightfall Vader hindered? mmm

It's from the junior novel:

He sensed that his apprentice was not yet as fully committed to the dark side as he should be. Well, destroying the Jedi here should certainly tie Anakin closer to his Sith identity - Darth Vader.

-- Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization

The hindrances and emotional divide were there even before the fight with Obi-Wan, tbh.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's from the junior novel:

The hindrances and emotional divide were there even before the fight with Obi-Wan, tbh.

That doesn't mention him being hindered at all, compared to his Jedi self. It merely talks of potential.

Originally posted by MythLord
[B]@Sel

The Jedi Temple was apparently a Light Side Nexus, but even on that, he still manages to blitz high-tier Jedi Masters like Cin Drallig and stomp hordes of Jedi, so... y'know, it shouldn't matter. [/B]

Not what I meant at all (I don't believe light side nexuses have ever been written into the lore, and the Jedi Temple is just a Force nexus), and him stomping Drallig in spite of his emotional/mental conflict is a good feat for him, nothing else. It doesn't discredit the hindrance, lol.