Originally posted by Sin I AM
Kinda over the "scandals" plaguing this election season. I honesty want to hear some well thought out, deconstructed plans for the next four years. Why isnt that being pushed?
Because one of the candidates seems to be in the habit of continually lying?
It's utterly pointless to hear the plans of someone you can't trust at all.(You see because you can't trust they are going to even do what they say). The last time Hilary opened her mouth for a big speech that people raved about..she spewed a boatload of false facts. Why would something else be any different? Can you explain?
With all her resources she can't say shit that is correct. Why would a few more months have made any difference? I'm genuinely curious.
The other problem is we really haven't gotten to the bottom of all this shit with Clinton and yet..early voting in some states starts very soon.
Originally posted by Surtur
Because one of the candidates seems to be in the habit of continually lying?
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/
Originally posted by Robtard
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Trump really needs to start being a straight-shooter. Ffs Donald, you were either for or against the last Iraq war, this lying has to stop.http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/
That is the thing though, the media loves to talk about all his lies. What about all of Hilary's?
I mean once again the defense is to talk about another person who also lies.
Here you go:
I don't think we can really trust anything either of these people say.
Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty sure Hillary being a liar is talked about
We certainly talk about it a lot here, but in the media? Most of it gets brushed off besides this email shit. The email stuff isn't the worst of her lies.
So don't get me wrong they both have lied. I think Trump has said stupid things and I'm still not even sure he truly wants to win. But he does indeed talk about some of the topics I care about(like immigration).
I can't say I'm going to vote for either of them. If I had to pick one I'd pick Trump, but since voting isn't a requirements I might not vote at all or I might write in another candidate, who knows. I really don't want to fall into the trap of feeling that they both don't deserve the job, but choosing the "lesser of two evils" that so many people phrase it as.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
House Democrats Release Emails Between Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton Showing Advice He Gave Her😎
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Where did he say to send classified material non secured in that exchange?
Originally posted by Surtur
We certainly talk about it a lot here, but in the media? Most of it gets brushed off besides this email shit. The email stuff isn't the worst of her lies.So don't get me wrong they both have lied. I think Trump has said stupid things and I'm still not even sure he truly wants to win. But he does indeed talk about some of the topics I care about(like immigration).
I can't say I'm going to vote for either of them. If I had to pick one I'd pick Trump, but since voting isn't a requirements I might not vote at all or I might write in another candidate, who knows. I really don't want to fall into the trap of feeling that they both don't deserve the job, but choosing the "lesser of two evils" that so many people phrase it as.
The email "scandal" is looking like nothing more than a pile of shit the Right is desperately clinging on to. All the inquiries turned up nothing, her predecessors used similar practices and back in the day when actual classified information was released by Republicans in the form of an attack (ie Valerie Plame scandal) the Right went "meh" and when Rove deleted 22 million (yes, MILLION) emails to cover the tracks of the Bush cabinets various misdoings once again it was "meh".
But yes, Clinton's trustfulness is often mentioned in the news.
Originally posted by Robtard
Well the email "scandal" is looking like nothing more than a pile of shit the Right is desperately clinging on to. All the inquiries turned up nothing, her predecessors used similar practices and back in the day when actual classified information was released by Republicans in the form of an attack (ie Valerie Plame scandal) the Right went "meh" and when Rove deleted 22 million (yes, MILLION) emails to cover their tracks of the Bush cabinets various misdoings once again it was "meh".
Well that is my point. The one thing the media focuses on with her is dubious. It is silly and thus it may cause others to dismiss any other criticisms about her as equally silly without really giving them any thought.
Are you going to vote for her?
Originally posted by Surtur
Well that is my point. The one thing the media focuses on with her is dubious. It is silly and thus it may cause others to dismiss any other criticisms about her as equally silly without really giving them any thought.Are you going to vote for her?
Not sure what you mean by that. The media does focus on her questionable trustworthiness; it's seemingly hurting her.
I'm likely voting 3rd party, because I have the luxury of living in a staunch Blue state. If I lived in a swing state like crappy Ohio or effing Florida, I would vote for Clinton over Trump.
Originally posted by Robtardi live in florida but I'm not voting for trump unless he can impress in the debate. As far as flip flopping on iraq, it's not surprising. What's less surprising is trump or hilary saying ANYTHING, knowing we can fact check anything.
Not sure what you mean by that. The media does focus on her questionable trustworthiness; it's seemingly hurting her.I'm likely voting 3rd party, because I have the luxury of living in a staunch Blue state. If I lived in a swing state like crappy Ohio or effing Florida, I would vote for Clinton over Trump.
Originally posted by Surtur
Because one of the candidates seems to be in the habit of continually lying?It's utterly pointless to hear the plans of someone you can't trust at all.(You see because you can't trust they are going to even do what they say). The last time Hilary opened her mouth for a big speech that people raved about..she spewed a boatload of false facts. Why would something else be any different? Can you explain?
With all her resources she can't say shit that is correct. Why would a few more months have made any difference? I'm genuinely curious.
The other problem is we really haven't gotten to the bottom of all this shit with Clinton and yet..early voting in some states starts very soon.
Youre not comprehending. This has nothing to do with that. Im saying idc about emails, idc about tax returns. What i care about are well thought out plans and policies..that's what i want to hear about.
Originally posted by Robtard
The email "scandal" is looking like nothing more than a pile of shit the Right is desperately clinging on to. All the inquiries turned up nothing, her predecessors used similar practices and back in the day when actual classified information was released by Republicans in the form of an attack (ie Valerie Plame scandal) the Right went "meh" and when Rove deleted 22 million (yes, MILLION) emails to cover the tracks of the Bush cabinets various misdoings once again it was "meh".But yes, Clinton's trustfulness is often mentioned in the news.
The right isn't desperately clinging to it and it's not a pile of shit because more and more is being released by wiki leaks and hilary's numbers continue to drop. I think the left desperately want it to be full of shit nothing that the right is clinging to. Numbers show otherwise.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-is-trump-gaining-on-clinton/
This is for everyone desperately clinging to the notion that this is the typical post convention drop off. It's not. The emails keep on coming, hilary's numbers keep on dropping and Trump's keep on rising. Furthermore, his standing with minorities and independents is increasing every passing day. Had these numbers fluctuated much less, I might have given credence to the idea that the numbers are back to their historical means. Just a response to those needing to cling to their particular narrative.
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