Originally posted by Digi
I actually think He-Man's a bad matchup for him. One of the few that could conceivably match him in strength, and a decapitation via Sword of Power has to count as a win, yeah?
I don't think he could match the World breaker Hulks or anything. His strength seemed to vary, I remember he moved the moon or something along those lines. Also tossed a castle back in time.
Though He-man did also have some level of super speed.
Originally posted by carver9
👆Make sense. What speed fts does Heman have?
Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think he could match the World breaker Hulks or anything. His strength seemed to vary, I remember he moved the moon or something along those lines. Also tossed a castle back in time.Though He-man did also have some level of super speed.
He has a couple ridiculous speed feats - like running so fast around a lake (not in it, but around it) that he creates a water tornado. But the video links I had for them are no longer up on Youtube.
Anyway, the image links in my battle with Leo are still working:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=600780
Since the respect thread I made with Goober years ago is like 90% dead links, that's the closest to a respect thread He-Man has on KMC.
I'm actually ok with saying Adam can't match WB Hulk in pure strength. He can in theory. But I know feats have to count for something.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]What I would like to know is how Long would Hulk last against some of these guys if you took away his Insanely Powerful Healing and Regenerative abilities? [/B]
His durability is so tied into his hf that its impossible to have one without the other. Closest thing iirc is Planet Hulk but he was seriously depowered for most of that arc
@Surtur, the Hulk has a level of super speed as well according to several of his showings. He-Man has yet to impress upon me, that he has ever physically moved at light speed. I've noticed that reaction time has a lot to do with the outcome of whom hits whom. If not, when Superman is tagged by characters that move slower than he does, he'd never be hit. Superman doesn't have any form of Precognitive powers. Which brings something interesting up about so many people that immediately announce a PIS or CIS ruling. They should actually also be considering margins of error. Or more to the point, the fact that most characters don't actually possess the means of seeing the future. If Superman, could see the future, it would be over before it began. No duh right? That's why he/she/they/them gets hit.. etc.
Originally posted by Stoic
@Surtur, the Hulk has a level of super speed as well according to several of his showings. He-Man has yet to impress upon me, that he has ever physically moved at light speed. I've noticed that reaction time has a lot to do with the outcome of whom hits whom. If not, when Superman is tagged by characters that move slower than he does, he'd never be hit. Superman doesn't have any form of Precognitive powers. Which brings something interesting up about so many people that immediately announce a PIS or CIS ruling. They should actually also be considering margins of error. Or more to the point, the fact that most characters don't actually possess the means of seeing the future. If Superman, could see the future, it would be over before it began. No duh right? That's why he/she/they/them gets hit.. etc.
He-Man has one that's straight-up Pre-Crisis Barry Allen sh*t. The Youtube link I had is dead, so of course I can't find it. But it was a decisive point for at least one judge in my Battlezone with him.
Suffice it to say, they're a fair amount more ridiculous in their execution (but what isn't with He-Man), but he's not slower than Hulk.
The Hulk doesn't have to be that fast, he's a living bomb that grows beyond anything that I've seen from He-Man. World Breaker would destroy Adam. I've seen He-Man, and Grayskull pushed beyond their measure. If you've ever seen it, He-Man was well below the strength of an the Ancient Dragon. This showed that there were some hard limits placed on him. The Hulk's limits are well above the Ancient Dragon's. Digi, Adam isn't touching the Hulk at his most powerful showing to date. Adam would be annihilated, It may also even be possible that a large portion of his galaxy would be destroyed as well. Sounds funny, but it was right there in our faces in the HOTM arc. If we took Adams best, do we take the Hulk's averages, or his best as well? The Hulk can exceed the power that Grayskull can give He-Man. The sword of power wouldn't keep the Hulk down for long. either. Margins of error happen, especially with the Hulk's ability to heal faster as he grows in strength. Betty as the Red She Hulk cut him with an enchanted blade as well, and he healed immediately as if the cuts never happened. Adam would wind up within the Hulk's range, and he would be hit and be destroyed in that same instant.
Originally posted by carver9
The way they are writing Hulk these days (I'm assuming you are using the Heralds using their abilities), I doubt a high Herald could take Hulk?Brawl would be good between Thanos and Hulk. I'm thriving to see it.
Theyre his peers. No, I think tjey would lose in a brawl but I'm saying in Marvel those three have feats that say they could take him out. They have the power to do it, just not likely if its plain fisticuffs because thats Banners thing.
To comfortably fight him physically and win would definitely need to be trans to take a majority..
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk doesn't have to be that fast, he's a living bomb that grows beyond anything that I've seen from He-Man. World Breaker would destroy Adam. I've seen He-Man, and Grayskull pushed beyond their measure. If you've ever seen it, He-Man was well below the strength of an the Ancient Dragon. This showed that there were some hard limits placed on him. The Hulk's limits are well above the Ancient Dragon's. Digi, Adam isn't touching the Hulk at his most powerful showing to date. Adam would be annihilated, It may also even be possible that a large portion of his galaxy would be destroyed as well. Sounds funny, but it was right there in our faces in the HOTM arc. If we took Adams best, do we take the Hulk's averages, or his best as well? The Hulk can exceed the power that Grayskull can give He-Man. The sword of power wouldn't keep the Hulk down for long. either. Margins of error happen, especially with the Hulk's ability to heal faster as he grows in strength. Betty as the Red She Hulk cut him with an enchanted blade as well, and he healed immediately as if the cuts never happened. Adam would wind up within the Hulk's range, and he would be hit and be destroyed in that same instant.
No arguments, but when did WBH become standard for Hulk matches? The OP specifies nothing of the sort. Seems like we moved the goalposts somewhere here.
So yeah, WBH is quite clearly beyond He-Man. Same with other similarly uber versions. /srug
I do think the Sword of Power could decapitate Hulk if he's not careful. Hulk's healing is amazing, but even it has limits on what attacks it can ignore in battles like these. Against, say, Classic Savage Hulk, or some of the lesser or more common iterations, I think Adam has a decent chance.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Theyre his peers. No, I think tjey would lose in a brawl but I'm saying in Marvel those three have feats that say they could take him out. They have the power to do it, just not likely if its plain fisticuffs because thats Banners thing.To comfortably fight him physically and win would definitely need to be trans to take a majority..
Perhaps beyond that in terms of sheer destruction. The Hulk gets a nerf at the beginning of every book that he's in. We can't forget that point. Since the characters inception, it has written that he has no known limit to his strength. Do we take that with a grain of salt, or accept that it is what it says? The Hulk on average isn't enough to stop from being one shot KO'd by a trans level character if we conveniently leave out that he is not only growing in power, but actually growing rapidly in power.
In a forum fight, the Hulk has nothing to stop him from immediately going ape-shit in a neutral environment. No innocents. He'd be just as aware of this fact, as his opponent would be. Right? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Digi
No arguments, but when did WBH become standard for Hulk matches? The OP specifies nothing of the sort. Seems like we moved the goalposts somewhere here.So yeah, WBH is quite clearly beyond He-Man. Same with other similarly uber versions. /srug
I do think the Sword of Power could decapitate Hulk if he's not careful. Hulk's healing is amazing, but even it has limits on what attacks it can ignore in battles like these. Against, say, Classic Savage Hulk, or some of the lesser or more common iterations, I think Adam has a decent chance.
Originally posted by Stoic
Perhaps beyond that in terms of sheer destruction. The Hulk gets a nerf at the beginning of every book that he's in. We can't forget that point. Since the characters inception, it has written that he has no known limit to his strength. Do we take that with a grain of salt, or accept that it is what it says? The Hulk on average isn't enough to stop from being one shot KO'd by a trans level character if we conveniently leave out that he is not only growing in power, but actually growing rapidly in power.In a forum fight, the Hulk has nothing to stop him from immediately going ape-shit in a neutral environment. No innocents. He'd be just as aware of this fact, as his opponent would be. Right? 😖hifty:
That still doesn't mean he goes WBH, though. His character is such that he doesn't go WBH if, say Spiderman cracked a yo mamma joke.
Even if there are no innocents around.
Basically, it becomes an argument of powerset, rather than who the character of Hulk is.
Originally posted by Digi
He-Man has one that's straight-up Pre-Crisis Barry Allen sh*t. The Youtube link I had is dead, so of course I can't find it. But it was a decisive point for at least one judge in my Battlezone with him.Suffice it to say, they're a fair amount more ridiculous in their execution (but what isn't with He-Man), but he's not slower than Hulk.
can you tll me what the speed feat is? always been curious about he-man