Ren or Vader; Choose wisely

I am disgusted by those who believe in Vader more so than Kylo Ren. This is the thread in which you declare where your loyalties lie. Make no mistake Vader fans I will haunt you.

vader easily no offense but kylo was a weak ass ***** he didnt even feel like a villain and was stupid imo. was cheering for rey when she stood up to him and showed him whos boss.

Quan. I love you. But how are you going to haunt the entire forum?

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
vader easily no offense but kylo was a weak ass ***** he didnt even feel like a villain and was stupid imo. was cheering for rey when she stood up to him and showed him whos boss.

I have to side with Vader on this one. Unless we're going strictly by the films Vader has feats far more impressive than Kylo's. Though Ren is by no means weak.

Sorry, what?

Greatest combatant quote please?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Sorry, what?

Greatest combatant quote please?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Sorry, what?

Greatest combatant quote please?

StarWars.com

I found it in your thread.

Well assuming that only applies to canon that would make sense as of now.

Yeah, pretty sure it's canon only. Because I can't see Kylo contending with a majority of EU characters with more than a couple feats to their names.

In terms of strictly canon Ren seems to have a much greater potential in the force than Vader. That's all I can say.

I didn't get that impression at all. Vader's casually crunched AT-ATs in canon.

to darthbane77: sorry but thats just bs. you've got to be a fanboy to believe kylo was on of the top fighters obviously disney is trying to make ren look good because he looked like a pussy in the movies lol no offense. people like shaak ti and ahsoka would kick his ass easily no contest. thats what real fighters look like and kylo doesnt compare to them. from: aalyasecura95

Disney's statements trump debater's opinion tbh.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I didn't get that impression at all. Vader's casually crunched AT-ATs in canon.

Canon Anakin? You know he's slid ATST's, collapsed multiple story structures and created small hurricanes?

to ucanshootmynova: sorry but it is up to us the debaters to call disney out on bs and this is bs. do you think kylo would even stand a chance against someone like ahsoka?? not buying it. if disney is handing out statements like that to people like kylo then pretty much anyone could get them in the future. when will it be too far for you??? when moralo eval is top duelist in the galaxy??? dont take everything at face value thats called being gullible. from: aalyasecura95

Originally posted by aalyasecura95
to darthbane77: sorry but thats just bs. you've got to be a fanboy to believe kylo was on of the top fighters obviously disney is trying to make ren look good because he looked like a pussy in the movies lol no offense. people like shaak ti and ahsoka would kick his ass easily no contest. thats what real fighters look like and kylo doesnt compare to them. from: aalyasecura95

Originally posted by Kurk
I don't believe it's a radical claim seeing how immature and unrefined he is yet is able to freeze blaster bolts in mid-air. Ren is far from perfect but his force powers seems pretty impressive when compared to Anakin.

Kylo definitely appears to have a lot of raw power, but I certainly wouldn't compare him favorably to Anakin in any regard as of now.

I wouldn't compare Vader to Anakin either, so it's OK. 😉