atris vs kylo ren

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atris vs kylo ren

mistress of telos academy fights kylo ren. who wins??

Not 100% positive, leaning Atris though; haven't seen enough of Kylo quote yet.

Atris lol. As of now Kylo has done jack shit, in future movie/s he'll be above Vader.

Atris wins. Kylo's good, but what he has mostly points to him being OCW Shaak level, which, whilst perhaps comparable to Atris, isn't on par.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
Kylo's good, but what he has mostly points to him being OCW Shaak level.

Where do you guys get these arbitrary rankings from?

Lol, where indeed.

Because everybody hypes his deflecting lightsaber blades whilst exhausted feat, which OCW Shaak replicated. What else does he have that'd put him above her?

Also, arbitrary? Virtually all of our rankings are arbitrary, lmfao.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Also, arbitrary? Virtually all of our rankings are arbitrary, lmfao.

Well, yeah, but I don't see the point in bringing characters that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, and using them as a measuring stick, LMAO.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Well, yeah, but I don't see the point in bringing characters that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, and using them as a measuring stick, LMAO.

Because that's a gauge that people would be familiar with and it would be easier for other people to understand where I'm heading?

Ah, I see. Fair enough, Moonraker.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Because everybody hypes his deflecting lightsaber blades whilst exhausted feat, which OCW Shaak replicated. What else does he have that'd put him above her?

Also, arbitrary? Virtually all of our rankings are arbitrary, lmfao.

When has Shaak replicated Kylo's lightsaber deflecting feat? Against Grievous she stopped the momentum of the blade itself, not tanked it's power which Kylo actually did.

Kylo is trash. Atris stomps

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
When has Shaak replicated Kylo's lightsaber deflecting feat? Against Grievous she stopped the momentum of the blade itself, not tanked it's power which Kylo actually did.

She deflected the momentum of the blade, and OCW Grievous' blows are much more powerful than Rey's. There's a lot of minutiae regarding a comparison of these showings that I'm not interested in delving into at the moment, but the two showings are roughly equal.

I'd legitimately be surprised if he wasn't past Atris by the next film. He's got vastly superior force potential, and assuming he completes his training he might et revenge on Rey

Obviously he'll surpass Atris upon attaining mastery, but as of yet, he's outmatched and likely outclassed.

Eh, canon lightsabers don't seem to have the same cutting power as their EU counterparts, tbh.

Originally posted by SunRazer
She deflected the momentum of the blade, and OCW Grievous' blows are much more powerful than Rey's. There's a lot of minutiae regarding a comparison of these showings that I'm not interested in delving into at the moment, but the two showings are roughly equal.

Do I really need to explain the difference? Sure, let's do it and put it to bed. In Shaak's case we see how she slows down Grievous his strike to the point that his blade is centimeters away from her hands and gets thrown against a wall so she is absorbing the blade's momentum(-> kinetic power) but is unable to fully do it as she is launched against a wall.

In Kylo's case we see how he puts up a barrier (the Junior novel describes it as a mental shield or something in that area so I'm assuming it's a barrier) which not only has to tank the kinetic power of Rey's blows (as she slashes into his mental shield) but also the cutting power of Rey's lightsaber (even in canon lightsabers can cut through the hull of capital ships and tank lightning).

So yes there is a similarity between the two feats but ultimately Kylo's performed better since he managed to block the kinetic power of the blows AND it's cutting power while Shaak Ti only blocked it's kinetic power (admitally Grievous is stronger than Rey) but even then was thrown against a wall at a pretty high velocity.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Do I really need to explain the difference? Sure, let's do it and put it to bed. In Shaak's case we see how she slows down Grievous his strike to the point that his blade is centimeters away from her hands and gets thrown against a wall so she is absorbing the blade's momentum(-> kinetic power) but is unable to fully do it as she is launched against a wall.

In Kylo's case we see how he puts up a barrier (the Junior novel describes it as a mental shield or something in that area so I'm assuming it's a barrier) which not only has to tank the kinetic power of Rey's blows (as she slashes into his mental shield) but also the cutting power of Rey's lightsaber (even in canon lightsabers can cut through the hull of capital ships and tank lightning).

So yes there is a similarity between the two feats but ultimately Kylo's performed better since he managed to block the kinetic power of the blows AND it's cutting power while Shaak Ti only blocked it's kinetic power (admitally Grievous is stronger than Rey) but even then was thrown against a wall at a pretty high velocity.

Firstly, Grievous is far, far stronger than Rey. Secondly, deflecting the blow bare-handed is better - perhaps far better - than blocking it with a Force shield.

And you seem to have it the other way around. Shaak blocked its cutting power, since she was unharmed, but the kinetic power still affected her, hence she was thrown backwards. That said, her Deflection feat would've pertained to the kinetic force of the blow nonetheless - she merely couldn't stop the force of the blow from sending her flying.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Well, yeah, but I don't see the point in bringing characters that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, and using them as a measuring stick, LMAO.

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