Originally posted by cs_zoltan
He didn't beat TCW Kenobi in a fair duel let alone RotS lmao.
The difference between Season 4 - Season 5 Obi-Wan and RotS Obi-Wan isn't big, barely noticeable. Anyway, Maul did outmatch him in Seaosn 4 just fine and before you bring up the "he was unbalanced" stuff, the episode guide on StarWars.com confirms that that was caused by him unleashing his fury on Maul, something that actually amplified his powers in TPM. Even in the Florrum duel Obi-Wan is consistenly on the run (not just defensively but litteraly on the run).
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Anyway, Maul did outmatch him in Seaosn 4 just fine and before you bring up the "he was unbalanced" stuff, the episode guide on StarWars.com confirms that that was caused by him unleashing his fury on Maul, something that actually amplified his powers in TPM.
Doesn't matter if he's amped by his furry if it's uncontrolled. That's the point of Dun Möch 😬
Also Kenobi just woke up from unconsciousness.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Even in the Florrum duel Obi-Wan is consistenly on the run (not just defensively but litteraly on the run).
Nah. It's called Sokan and Soresu. Look it up.
His fury was 'uncontrolled' in TPM but it still helped him anyway and is there even any indication that it was uncontrolled?
Well that's easy, everytime Kenobi's giving ground means now he's actually just practising Soresu so he's actually undefeatable. However look at all of his TCW fights and he's never on de defense (or giving ground) besides against Grievous when Anakin freeing Eeth Koth or in the Movie against Ventress but he needed to keep his opponents busy on both occassions. On the Turtle Tanker Obi-Wan was directly seeking out higher ground when Maul got the advantage and on Florrum Maul didn't even want to kill him and he was running away from the moment de duel started. So why would Obi-Wan give ground against Maul while he hasn't done that against any of his other opponents in the CW continuity (besides the exceptions I previously mentioned)?
Obi-Wan was outmatched in both their encounters in TCW, he admitted that himself and we've seen it.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
His fury was 'uncontrolled' in TPM but it still helped him anyway and is there even any indication that it was uncontrolled?
If his amp were controlled then this would've happened: https://youtu.be/IqEtXVh8UOo?t=2m15s
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Well that's easy, everytime Kenobi's giving ground means now he's actually just practising Soresu so he's actually undefeatable. However look at all of his TCW fights and he's never on de defense (or giving ground) besides against Grievous when Anakin freeing Eeth Koth or in the Movie against Ventress but he needed to keep his opponents busy on both occassions. On the Turtle Tanker Obi-Wan was directly seeking out higher ground when Maul got the advantage and on Florrum Maul didn't even want to kill him and he was running away from the moment de duel started. So why would Obi-Wan give ground against Maul while he hasn't done that against any of his other opponents in the CW continuity (besides the exceptions I previously mentioned)?
I don't know where you got this when it's in fact the opposite. Kenobi always gives ground when fighting alone with Soresu. Even against a lone MagnaGuard, Pre Vizla, or Cad Bane. That's how he fights, deal with it.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Obi-Wan was outmatched in both their encounters in TCW, he admitted that himself and we've seen it.
He did say so in their frist duel. When He was injured and unbalanced.
As for their second duel, idk where you saw Kenobi being outmatched? Was it when he chopped of Savage's arm with Maul as a backup?
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
If his amp were controlled then this would've happened: https://youtu.be/IqEtXVh8UOo?t=2m15s
He only did so because he was using the cramped space of the cave and because the brothers were hindering each other as confirmed by the novelization of the fight, good try though.
I don't know where you got this when it's in fact the opposite. Kenobi always gives ground when fighting alone with Soresu. Even against a lone MagnaGuard, Pre Vizla, or Cad Bane. That's how he fights, deal with it.
Because I looked at every fight he had? You're absolutely wrong, he didn't give one meter away against both Bane and Vizla, nor against Grievous on Kamino or against Grievous on Saleucami and so on. Do you really want me to post every single fight he has been in?
He did say so in their frist duel. When He was injured and unbalanced.As for their second duel, idk where you saw Kenobi being outmatched? Was it when he chopped of Savage's arm with Maul as a backup?
So you have evidence that he was hindered in that duel? Please, I'm waiting on it.
It was when he was running away from a holding back Maul.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
He only did so because he was using the cramped space of the cave and because the brothers were hindering each other as confirmed by the novelization of the fight, good try though.
Because the ship was totally not cramped and fighting two opponents totally doesn't take more than a single one.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Because I looked at every fight he had? You're absolutely wrong, he didn't give one meter away against both Bane and Vizla, nor against Grievous on Kamino or against Grievous on Saleucami and so on. Do you really want me to post every single fight he has been in?
I watched it too before posting. He did gave ground against Bane and Vizla, doesn't matter how much. And in duels where he didn't it was brief. Either way your suggestion that he never gives ground is false, since he did so. Against far inferior opponents than Maul.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
So you have evidence that he was hindered in that duel? Please, I'm waiting on it.
https://youtu.be/NYv_gHAKp1I?t=5s mmm
Looked healthy as ever 👆
And then he got 2 kicks from a mechanical leg that can oneshot Jedi. Yet even then he could tag Maul with kicks and pushes and get his saber back from him.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
It was when he was running away from aholding backMaul and Savage.
Fixed.