Originally posted by darthbane77
How is Taalon above Valk and Sidious? Is he equal to Luke or something? I know he either drank from the font ot bathed in the pool, can't remember which.
Originally posted by darthbane77
He displayed immense power as a spirit though in KOTFE, in the Visions in the Dark chapter. I don't think he was weakened much, if at all.
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Originally posted by EmperordmbHe isn't weakened significantly though, he's still strong enough as a spirit to dominate the Outlander and freezing time.
You mean aside from the part where he oneshots Arcann in his body, then when he channels his power through the outlander it takes a protracted lightning attack to beat Arcann and Arcann right after that commenting about how he was weaker?Seems pretty clear cut to me.
Originally posted by darthbane77
He isn't weakened significantly though,
Originally posted by darthbane77
he's still strong enough as a spirit to dominate the Outlander
Originally posted by darthbane77
and freezing time.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
KotORCG states Kun, Revan, Malak, Kreia, Sion, and Nihilus *can* expand their power as far as a solar system.Note it's not just Force drain though. It's any ranged ability. Telekinesis, such as a Force choke, would work too.
It's a rather heavy mechanic-based power though.
Is this the devastating/distant power stuff? Vandar Tokare had that as well. How seriously do you take this stuff?
Yeah, that. I mean, if Palpatine's bringing Vader to his knees across the galaxy with telepathy, it's not a stretch to assume Revan can choke someone on a nearby planet if he's really unleashing his power. Point is I can easily see Valkorion attacking his opponent from across a planet, since those powers confirm as much. However the text made specific note it's more indication of mastery, not raw power.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Yeah, that. I mean, if Palpatine's bringing Vader to his knees across the galaxy with telepathy, it's not a stretch to assume Revan can choke someone on a nearby planet if he's really unleashing his power.
Revan and Nihilus have both used Sense across the galaxy before. Traya's used Sense and Telepathy across the galaxy. Heck, Baras Choked people from across the galaxy, pintpointed the exact coordinates of his lightsaber from across the galaxy with Sense, etc. It's not hard to believe that most powerful Sith can do this.
Point is I can easily see Valkorion attacking his opponent from across a planet, since those powers confirm as much. However the text made specific note it's more indication of mastery, not raw power.
Which text? Where's the part where Devastating Power and Distant Power are described to begin with?
Originally posted by EmperordmbThen exactly what is this? https://imgur.com/NZzuotc
Debatable. But regardless, if Luke already beats him at full strength, then just Valkorion being a little less than that still keeps Luke's victory cemented.Fair enough for him I guess
No... no he doesn't.
Originally posted by darthbane77
Did not know Luke could do that, nevermind then.
Mind Walking is practical in storytelling context but not in a hypothetical confrontation like this one where every second counts.
One cannot just Mind Walk in an instant; it is a ritualistic procedure that takes some time (possibly a minute?). And it is also a risky endeavor because it leaves the body in vegetable state. In order to attempt:
1. Luke Skywalker should be fully aware of Valkorion's abilities and powers in the first place
2. Luke needs to do it from relative safety
It is unwise to assume that Luke is fully aware of Valkorion's abilities and powers without solid evidence. The two have never met, and the literature gives us the impression that much about Valkorion is shrouded in mystery because he was not active on the front-lines. A reason is that Valkorion muted all those who came into contact with him but were not welcome. Jedi historians also attempted to get some insight about him but did not learn much.
Now, let us assume for the sake of argument that Luke manages to defeat an avatar of Valkorion (which is also a matter of IF, because Luke can loose in this confrontation as well). Now, Luke would feel that he has beaten his foe and he no longer exists. Therefore, Valkorion can take advantage of this situation and kill Luke because the Jedi won't see it coming.
For more information, kindly consult Star Wars: Fate of the Jedi - Abyss. Look at pages 162 - 170 in particular. My assessment is based on revelations in this novel.