Captain Atom Vs Captain Marvel

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Captain Atom Vs Captain Marvel

No prep.
No BFR.
Pre DCnu.

Marvel should beat a standard Atom every time

Given Mary Marvel beat Cap Atom with ease there's no reason to believe her brother couldn't do it also.

I believe Cap. Marvel wins it without much trouble.

Is atom that weak?

Atom can definitely put up a damn good fight *see his battle with Majestic*. His immunity to all magic would help here as well.

More times that not, though, Billy edges him out.

Originally posted by Galan007
Atom can definitely put up a damn good fight *see his battle with Majestic*. His immunity to all magic would help here as well.

More times that not, though, Billy edges him out.

how does that work exactly? like primes where he didn't feel teths punches?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Is atom that weak?
I see standard Atom as being low end mid-herald

Originally posted by Sin I AM
how does that work exactly? like primes where he didn't feel teths punches?
All we know is that his skin/shell is impervious to magic:

I can only assume that magical energy just cannot permeate through it or whathaveyou. Said immunity would only play a factor if Billy used his esoteric abilities, like Lightning or w/e. Atom would obviously still be affected by his physical strikes(even though they are charged with magic.)

he was def affected by mary's punches...

Hence my statement. 😉

Originally posted by Cogito
I see standard Atom as being low end mid-herald

ok

Originally posted by Cogito
I see standard Atom as being low end mid-herald
It's just DC comics doesn't know what to do with him and therefore undervalues him most of the time. As in his NDCU series he had the potential to be the most powerful hero in the DCU. But it would require an extremelly talented writer

Originally posted by Galan007
All we know is that his skin/shell is impervious to magic:

I can only assume that magical energy just cannot permeate through it or whathaveyou. Said immunity would only play a factor if Billy used his esoteric abilities, like Lightning or w/e. Atom would obviously still be affected by his physical strikes(even though they are charged with magic.)

Due to the fact mages Like Arion and Merlin are shown in the DCU to be less powerful around science i always figured that Atom's immunity was due to the quantum field being pure science at its peak.

If you look at the DCU mystics specifically NOT weakened by magic their power comes as much from a knowledge of science or cosmic power as straight out magic. (Dr Fate for example was taught the secret of molecular control by Nabu. Phantom stranger has a vast knowledve base and so on)

Originally posted by Galan007
All we know is that his skin/shell is impervious to magic:

I can only assume that magical energy just cannot permeate through it or whathaveyou. Said immunity would only play a factor if Billy used his esoteric abilities, like Lightning or w/e. Atom would obviously still be affected by his physical strikes(even though they are charged with magic.)


Originally posted by beatboks
Due to the fact mages Like Arion and Merlin are shown in the DCU to be less powerful around science i always figured that Atom's immunity was due to the quantum field being pure science at its peak.

If you look at the DCU mystics specifically NOT weakened by magic their power comes as much from a knowledge of science or cosmic power as straight out magic. (Dr Fate for example was taught the secret of molecular control by Nabu. Phantom stranger has a vast knowledve base and so on)

The Quantum Field is also called the Chi in the DCU and he is the base of Magic too as Magic fuels itself from Nature.

Originally posted by beatboks
Due to the fact mages Like Arion and Merlin are shown in the DCU to be less powerful around science i always figured that Atom's immunity was due to the quantum field being pure science at its peak.

If you look at the DCU mystics specifically NOT weakened by magic their power comes as much from a knowledge of science or cosmic power as straight out magic. (Dr Fate for example was taught the secret of molecular control by Nabu. Phantom stranger has a vast knowledve base and so on)

Given the ambiguity of his magical immunity, that is as good a reason as any.

Nate's containment vessel is suspect in my opinion; especially when considering just how strong CM is. Speed goes to CM as well. I'm near or on the verge of saying that he pummels him, if not for the Majestic showing.

If Atom cuts loose, he could definitely make it fight. But yeah, he ultimately loses.

Really informative!

But how did Crimson Avenger manage to shoot him with her bullets?