To be honest I don't think much about Poland at all. By that I mean: I don't have any issues with the country, it's just not a place I often think about.
In a way I feel that is good. Since the countries in Europe that I do know more about..I know more about them due to all the troubles they are going through right now. So I can't say I have any issues with the country at all. My grandma's grandma was from Poland.
Other than that..most of what I know is stuff that happened during WW2.
Originally posted by Lord LucienThere's a fair Polish community in England, and Polish food shops aren't that uncommon, even in smaller towns. The stereotype of them stealing jobs isn't entirely unfounded, I know of a few people (i.e., my parents' friends) who have lost a lot of work due to Polish immigrants working manual labour jobs for under the living wage. I'm not saying that that's a good reason for these people to to start voting UKIP, but I can sympathise with them, at least. And of course, that's not to say all Polish immigrants are doing as such. But from what I've gleaned, most Polish immigrants in the UK do come from rather poor backgrounds.
How many Poles are Britland?
Originally posted by ScribbleAre the British nationalists comparable to the Americans, calling for a boycott on all immigration, mass deportations, and literal walls? Is the hatred for the Poles in Britain on the same level as the hatred for the Mexicans and other Latinos in the States?
There's a fair Polish community in England, and Polish food shops aren't that uncommon, even in smaller towns. The stereotype of them stealing jobs isn't entirely unfounded, I know of a few people (i.e., my parents' friends) who have lost a lot of work due to Polish immigrants working manual labour jobs for under the living wage. I'm not saying that that's a good reason for these people to to start voting UKIP, but I can sympathise with them, at least. And of course, that's not to say all Polish immigrants are doing as such. But from what I've gleaned, most Polish immigrants in the UK do come from rather poor backgrounds.
Originally posted by Lord LucienYeah, the nationalists are pretty similar, to be honest. There's supposedly a wall being built around the Calais refugee camp in France so that they can't go down the Channel Tunnel to the UK, and that'll make them happy. The anti-Polish sentiment used to be pretty high whilst I was in school (Romanians got their fair share of hate, too), but I think the attention has primarily been focused on the people from the various Islamic countries that move here now. Also, most of the more extreme nationalists here are also members of the working or lower classes, generally (or pretend to be. See: Farage).
Are the British nationalists comparable to the Americans, calling for a boycott on all immigration, mass deportations, and literal walls? Is the hatred for the Poles in Britain on the same level as the hatred for the Mexicans and other Latinos in the States?
Originally posted by Surtur
To be honest I don't think much about Poland at all. By that I mean: I don't have any issues with the country, it's just not a place I often think about..
TBH people tend to gravitate towards the issues associated with of the most powerful countries like the US or Russia. It’s like asking what Poles think of France or Portugal. Whatever.
Originally posted by riv6672
Been there; nice country.
Originally posted by jaden101
They're good drinkers.
But the point should be made that in a lot of those countries that you always hear are really great to live in...people also don't think much about them either. You could also compare it to our news. The news will more often report on either a story that is neutral or a story that is negative. Positive stories are in the minority.
I just say this because it almost felt some people thought it was a negative trait to not have these certain countries on your mind.
Originally posted by Scribble
I know of a few people (i.e., my parents' friends) who have lost a lot of work due to Polish immigrants working manual labour jobs for under the living wage.
This is exactly one of the same issues we have here in America. People will work for a lesser wage and then those that live here lose out. But then we have the stigma that this is all because non-latino's just don't like to do grunt work. Which is actually kind of insulting to all the people who do indeed do that grunt work(of all races). I know people who shovel shit for a living and they aren't latino.
What also isn't talked about is this also negatively effects the latino's who actually worked to come here legally.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Are the British nationalists comparable to the Americans, calling for a boycott on all immigration, mass deportations, and literal walls? Is the hatred for the Poles in Britain on the same level as the hatred for the Mexicans and other Latinos in the States?
IMO the level of "hatred" in the USA isn't that high. I'm sure some people have genuine hatred, but I don't hate them. In a perfect world they could indeed come into this country without any negative effects. But that isn't the reality.
The reality is sometimes stuff like this goes down:
Illegal immigrant charged with murder in California fire had prior arrests, was never deported
Originally posted by Surtur
But the point should be made that in a lot of those countries that you always hear are really great to live in...people also don't think much about them either. You could also compare it to our news. The news will more often report on either a story that is neutral or a story that is negative. Positive stories are in the minority.I just say this because it almost felt some people thought it was a negative trait to not have these certain countries on your mind.
Like you said what makes the news is usually something either very negative or extremely impactful or controversial.
To borrow the style from Thomas Sowell even if "Americans do not think about Poland, it is also true that Poles do not think of Spain. Spaniards do not think of Australia, and all sorts of nationalities do not think of others."
On the other hand, at least recently, most news that were coming from Europe were either about the migrant crisis and terrorist attacks in Germany or France, or Brexit. That pretty much covers 95% of the news from Europe. Even war in Ukraine kinda almost disappeared from the media outlets.
But on topic. Poland is associated definitely with beautful women, very hospitable people and, as mentioned above, heavy drinking. 👆
On the flip side a lot of immigrants that come to other countries like GB or Germany from Poland are usually from the poorer or less educated classes. On the other hand, vast majoity of them is interested in hard and honest work, so there's that.
Having travelled around Europe and the US I can attest that Poland should also be recognized for its great food, good bear and a common sensical and warm approach to life that trumps many Western lifestyles and ideologies.