Originally posted by Surtur
This is exactly one of the same issues we have here in America. People will work for a lesser wage and then those that live here lose out.
Originally posted by Surtur
But are those immigrants there illegally? Or legally?
I guess you mean the illegal immigation to the US. In this case, it's different in the US.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Poland doesnt have a minimum wage?
Yet we also have a more complex variety of contracts that can be established between the employer and the employee.
In a nutshell, some of them, theoretically, allow the employer to establish whatever wage he is willing to give. Of couse, you don't have to take it. On the other hand for immigrants from Ukraine it's still good money even if for a Pole it's a tiny amount.
Originally posted by Stigma
I'd say vast majority, if not all are here legally. But the same can be said about Poles immigrating to the UK, for instance. They are there legally.I guess you mean the illegal immigation to the US. In this case, it's different in the US.
We do.
Yet we also have a more complex variety of contracts that can be established between the employer and the employee.
In a nutshell, some of them, theoretically, allow the employer to establish whatever wage he is willing to give. Of couse, you don't have to take it. On the other hand for immigrants from Ukraine it's still good money even if for a Pole it's a tiny amount.
This doesn't make sense. They are taking jobs Poles dont want...not seeing the issue
Originally posted by Stigma
I'd say vast majority, if not all are here legally. But the same can be said about Poles immigrating to the UK, for instance. They are there legally.I guess you mean the illegal immigation to the US. In this case, it's different in the US.
I understand. But yeah, the problem is when people are here illegally you can pay them "under the table" so to speak. In other words you are paying them in cash, but you are paying them less than the set minimum wage. It's not like the illegals can do much about it so they have to take it. So then this idea spreads and you have people who have a business and they have the option of paying legal people a certain wage, or paying illegals far less. They choose the people they can pay the least money.
So while they are coming here to make a better life..they are preventing legal citizens from doing the same.
But this topic is about Poland. Having read the rest of your response I see there is a complex contract system. It sounds like greed wins the day..just like here.
Originally posted by JKBart
definitely too many because we suck at basic jobs
No you don't.
Poland is a lovely country.
You are a fine people.
It is always a pleasure to meet and work with some one who is Polish.
You have some very good research scientists working for private companies and on public government projects in England.
You have the best striker in Europe.
Spoiler:
You are a fine people
You guys had this big Commonwealth with Lithuania back in the day. A personal union under a Jagellion? Was a major power in Europe until it collapsed in the 18th century. Russian Empire made Poland a client state during the 19th century after Napoleon was defeated. Poland gained independence after WW1. During WWII, Poland had the misfortune of being stuck between the two biggest pricks in history.
That's everything I know about Poland and Poles.
Originally posted by Surtur
Until they start to talk.Zing!
Originally posted by Lucius
You guys had this big Commonwealth with Lithuania back in the day. A personal union under a Jagellion? Was a major power in Europe until it collapsed in the 18th century. Russian Empire made Poland a client state during the 19th century after Napoleon was defeated. Poland gained independence after WW1. During WWII, Poland had the misfortune of being stuck between the two biggest pricks in history.That's everything I know about Poland and Poles.
Some other interesting trivia:
- Despite being one of the larger and most religiously and ethnically diverse countries during it’s high of power, Poland has never had religious wars like the ones in Western Europe (think religious wars in Germany, Britain or France etc.)
- Poland’s first Constitution was second in the world and first in Europe, established in 1791, four years after the American one.
- Polish nobleman and general, Thaddeus Kosciuszko designed and built West Point. It became a Military Academy as suggested by Kosciuszko to George Washington.
- Polish Army is still the only one till this day that captured Moscow and established its figurehead in Russia (when Hitler and Napoleon could not).
- Marie Curie was Polish (Maria Skłodowska), as was one of the greatest writers in English, Joseph Conrad (Jozef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski).
- Polish women are absurdly hot. /fact