Originally posted by Stoic
Well if you want to go with a classic showing of the Hulk increasing in strength, look no further than his epic struggles against the Abomination. You literally see how much stronger the Abomination is compared to the Hulk as he threw him around, and pummeled him. Then you see how the Hulk dramatically shifts the fight into his favor due to the sudden increase in strength that he gains within seconds allowing him the defeat the Abomination.
cool. figured that would be raised. but....that's one fight. in any match against thor (just one example) he never ended up far surpassing thor--arguable he surpassed him at all most of the time....
You also have to take CIS into account. The Hulk has always held his strength in check due to the innocent lives that would be at stake, or lost if he went all out like Doomsday. In a forum fight he doesn't have to worry about innocents, because unless stated otherwise, the battles are waged in a neutral setting so as to not hamper the abilities of the combatants involved. This means that the Hulk could go apeshit without the guilt of killing civilians. I fully agree with your conclusion if there were pedestrians running around in the streets. So no need to concede on anything, because your argument is valid under a certain light. [/B]
you think cis keeps his strength in check? when hulk is hulk, he's not typically all that concerned about civilians.... i think it's more along the lines of he gets strong enough to match most enemies. maybe that's pis, but for it to be pis, we'd need some instances of where he just went nuts and his strength went nuts with it. even mindless hulk seemed to have a limit before he burned out.
i just think it more of a forum myth that as a battle goes on hulk will surpass an opponent in strength--or far surpass them. i can't see him surpassing classic marvel in strength--at least not by very much. i agree AM wouldn't be much of a factor. i thought he may have his trident which would help some, especially given his own lightning powers with it.....
if this is classic CM, i still would take the team probably. current hulk is more powerful than classic hulk though so it's not an easy call.
Originally posted by leonidas
cool. figured that would be raised. but....that's one fight. in any match against thor (just one example) he never ended up far surpassing thor--arguable he surpassed him at all most of the time....you think cis keeps his strength in check? when hulk is hulk, he's not typically all that concerned about civilians.... i think it's more along the lines of he gets strong enough to match most enemies. maybe that's pis, but for it to be pis, we'd need some instances of where he just went nuts and his strength went nuts with it. even mindless hulk seemed to have a limit before he burned out.
i just think it more of a forum myth that as a battle goes on hulk will surpass an opponent in strength--or far surpass them. i can't see him surpassing classic marvel in strength--at least not by very much. i agree AM wouldn't be much of a factor. i thought he may have his trident which would help some, especially given his own lightning powers with it.....
if this is classic CM, i still would take the team probably. current hulk is more powerful than classic hulk though so it's not an easy call.
He thrashed Thor in one or their classic fights which lead to the Author bringing up Hulk increase in power. It was also brought up in their Antarctica fight. Thor is just a talented fighter. Look at his last fight against Kurse who was said in the same comic to be 4 times more powerful.
This is the Thor and Hulk fight I'm talking about.
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In this fight he had Thor outright tell us Hulk is the strongest being he has ever faced.
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg.html
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Originally posted by leonidas
cool. figured that would be raised. but....that's one fight. in any match against thor (just one example) he never ended up far surpassing thor--arguable he surpassed him at all most of the time....you think cis keeps his strength in check? when hulk is hulk, he's not typically all that concerned about civilians.... i think it's more along the lines of he gets strong enough to match most enemies. maybe that's pis, but for it to be pis, we'd need some instances of where he just went nuts and his strength went nuts with it. even mindless hulk seemed to have a limit before he burned out.
i just think it more of a forum myth that as a battle goes on hulk will surpass an opponent in strength--or far surpass them. i can't see him surpassing classic marvel in strength--at least not by very much. i agree AM wouldn't be much of a factor. i thought he may have his trident which would help some, especially given his own lightning powers with it.....
if this is classic CM, i still would take the team probably. current hulk is more powerful than classic hulk though so it's not an easy call.
Please read...
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/12.jpg.html
Also...
And yes, he was losing this battle but as shown (and stated), Hulk became mad and became stronger. Jesus, there are so many Classic fights I can post with this like his fight with G. He was shrunk down to the size of a mouse and was getting stomped in the beginning of the fight. He gets pissed and not only trounce his opponent but his rage made him grow back to his normal size.
Originally posted by carver9
Also...And yes, he was losing this battle but as shown (and stated), Hulk became mad and became stronger. Jesus, there are so many Classic fights I can post with this like his fight with G. He was shrunk down to the size of a mouse and was getting stomped in the beginning of the fight. He gets pissed and not only trounce his opponent but his rage made him grow back to his normal size.
Captain Marvels power> that pathetic Gobot!
He was also gaining more power against the In Betweener to the point IB was struggling and using most of his power to hold the Hulk. Given time, Hulk would've overpowered him (Abstract). It's also stated in the scans that Hulk amping had a lot to do with it.
Originally posted by carver9
In-betweener.
This pretty much nips it in the bud. This is Grey Hulk by the way. Please read the words.
Originally posted by carver9
There has never been anything measure on how angry he can get (which means his anger us immeasurable) and there has never been a measurement on his strength (incalculable). What I'm getting from this is, Hulk power, including his rage is limitless. Thanks for the scans Jax.