Hulk face an amped Ironman and walk through his attack. Anger is being mentioned here.
Originally posted by carver9
Hands that can Juggles SUNS. Hulk is literally toying with an amped Ironman. Ripping through his tech and armor with ease. Hulk is operating at insane levels these days. This version or Hulk needs to stay. An absolute beast.Lol, Ironman thought he was weaker because he was smart. This version of Hulk is as powerful, if not, more powerful than his dumb, brute, always angry self. Loving it.
I'm done posting scans. Hope I made my point.
Originally posted by carver9
This is the Thor and Hulk fight I'm talking about.http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd124/HulkFights/Vs%20Thor/Fight%203/1.jpg
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i've discussed that fight a hundred times. he never gets to the point where he far surpasses thor--he seemed to be stronger than thor from the start there. even when he got REALLY po'd he couldn't ko' thor.... so, not a great example.
Originally posted by carver9
In this fight he had Thor outright tell us Hulk is the strongest being he has ever faced.http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/2.jpg.html
http://s226.photobucket.com/user/HulkFights/media/Vs%20Thor/Fight%205/3.jpg.html
huh? that has nothing to do with what i asked.... there is nothing showing him getting far stronger than thor as the battle went on....
i could show thor fighting hulk for HOURS and STILL stalemating him in strength, even after all that time....
Originally posted by carver9And yes, he was losing this battle but as shown (and stated), Hulk became mad and became stronger. Jesus, there are so many Classic fights I can post with this like his fight with G. He was shrunk down to the size of a mouse and was getting stomped in the beginning of the fight. He gets pissed and not only trounce his opponent but his rage made him grow back to his normal size. [/B]
this one is solid, and one i'd forgotten since it was against a no body....
the first abom fight is one i recalled and is pretty good, shows what i was looking for. the second one really doesn't. hulk basically dominated him from the start and didn't even appear to get angry in the fight.
the other IM scans at the top of this page don't show anything either--he didn't get angry and surpass tony. tony was outclassed from the start.
so, for all the thousands of fights hulk has had, it would seem there are very few where he can clearly be shown to surpass, let alone FAR surpass, an opponent in strength. he is rarely shown to be a lot weaker than someone at the start, and far superior at the end. lately it seems more like his strength just starts at a lot higher level than it did before.
golem mentioned maybe the single best example in that non-canon superman/hulk meeting, but that seems to rarely happen in comics. please post others though that clearly show him becoming much greater than an opponent at the end of a fight.
there are some examples, true, but it would seem they are the exception, as opposed to the norm in hulk battles. nothing i saw in those scans would convince me hulk would surpass CM by any great margin. i think a fight between classic CM and hulk could go either way if it's classic hulk. i haven't followed cho hulk, or even banner hulk too closely for the last couple years, but i know he was operating at a higher level, seemingly. still, i could see classic cm doing what sun god was able to do. lightning speed and flight, along with superman level strength tell me CM would make this really really tough....
i don't recall that but that would be a good one. i think you're right though. but that alone us enough to do away with the assumption that hulk will simply runaway with fights because he'll just keep getting stronger and stronger and end up just overwhelming an opponent. that type of strength increase is not shown very often. more often hulk is either as strong or stronger from the start in fights, and his increases rarely seem to reach the point that he overwhelms an opponent. in this match, if he wasn't as strong as marvel at the start, he would almost immediately become as strong, perhaps a little stronger, but not so much stronger that he would overwhelm billy. with his speed and lightning i see no reason to think cm couldn't at least split by himself in this match (admitting again that i've less knowledge of the most recent depictions of hulk after indestructible hulk....)
Originally posted by leonidas
i've discussed that fight a hundred times. he never gets to the point where he far surpasses thor--he seemed to be stronger than thor from the start there. even when he got REALLY po'd he couldn't ko' thor.... so, not a great example.huh? that has nothing to do with what i asked.... there is nothing showing him getting far stronger than thor as the battle went on....
i could show thor fighting hulk for HOURS and STILL stalemating him in strength, even after all that time....
this one is solid, and one i'd forgotten since it was against a no body....
the first abom fight is one i recalled and is pretty good, shows what i was looking for. the second one really doesn't. hulk basically dominated him from the start and didn't even appear to get angry in the fight.
the other IM scans at the top of this page don't show anything either--he didn't get angry and surpass tony. tony was outclassed from the start.
so, for all the thousands of fights hulk has had, it would seem there are very few where he can clearly be shown to surpass, let alone FAR surpass, an opponent in strength. he is rarely shown to be a lot weaker than someone at the start, and far superior at the end. lately it seems more like his strength just starts at a lot higher level than it did before.
golem mentioned maybe the single best example in that non-canon superman/hulk meeting, but that seems to rarely happen in comics. please post others though that clearly show him becoming much greater than an opponent at the end of a fight.
there are some examples, true, but it would seem they are the exception, as opposed to the norm in hulk battles. nothing i saw in those scans would convince me hulk would surpass CM by any great margin. i think a fight between classic CM and hulk could go either way if it's classic hulk. i haven't followed cho hulk, or even banner hulk too closely for the last couple years, but i know he was operating at a higher level, seemingly. still, i could see classic cm doing what sun god was able to do. lightning speed and flight, along with superman level strength tell me CM would make this really really tough....
Wait a minute. Were you expecting Hulk to kill Thor because as stated on so many of occasions... Banner prevents Hulk from doing things like that so what youre expecting just will not happen. He beat Thor until he was blue in the face. Cant recall anything similar like that happening. You thinking Hulk was suppose to rip him in half doesn't take away from Hulk dynamic showing against Thor. Thats like me saying Thor and a angry Celestial is equals due to Thor still being physically able to fight back, even after the Celestial dished everything he had at him. Thats not a low showing for either the Celestial or Hulk, its a high showing for Thor.
😂 you can post Thor stalemating Hulk for hours if you want too but when you post that scan, make sure you type right beside it Hulk not having dynamic strength during that era. Everyone knows this... hell, ABHI even knows this.
LOL... a nobody? That doesn't take away from it happening.
Tony hits during the beginning, Hulk wasn't brushing them off. After this, Ironman amps up further and Hulk walks through it. Yes, the showing is legit.
The thousand fights Hulk has had, he grew stronger in all of them. I see no reason along with the writer doesn't see a reason to announce this in every fight when everyone and their grandma knows Hulk capabilities.
Then we have this...
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Powers/SavageHulkAmping01FF025.jpg.html
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Powers/SavageHulkAmping02FF026.jpg.html
This seals the deal.
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Powers/SavageHulkAmping04141.jpg.html
Originally posted by leonidas
cool. figured that would be raised. but....that's one fight. in any match against thor (just one example) he never ended up far surpassing thor--arguable he surpassed him at all most of the time....you think cis keeps his strength in check? when hulk is hulk, he's not typically all that concerned about civilians.... i think it's more along the lines of he gets strong enough to match most enemies. maybe that's pis, but for it to be pis, we'd need some instances of where he just went nuts and his strength went nuts with it. even mindless hulk seemed to have a limit before he burned out.
i just think it more of a forum myth that as a battle goes on hulk will surpass an opponent in strength--or far surpass them. i can't see him surpassing classic marvel in strength--at least not by very much. i agree AM wouldn't be much of a factor. i thought he may have his trident which would help some, especially given his own lightning powers with it.....
if this is classic CM, i still would take the team probably. current hulk is more powerful than classic hulk though so it's not an easy call.
I think it all boils down to whether or not the Hulk would be willing to dig deep, or allow these guys to chip him up in a neutral setting by knock out. In my opinion, this is the Hulk's fight to lose, because Captain Marvel can not hope to match his raw strength, and the Hulk can punch him in the face like he did to Robert Reynolds. The Sentry at that time was always moving at 2 seconds into the future, he likely exceeds that these days, and he was punched in the face. Moving on.
It's the Hulk's durability that's amazing, his defenses actually allow for his toughness at certain levels, to take up to 70-80% of the hit, while his healing factor mitigates the 20-30% practically in that instant. Wait a sec, I'm not done yet, as his strength increases, his damage resistance climbs as well to the point that he may not even feel the impact, and magic isn't his weakness, he takes it as normal damage, and that damage is then mitigated by his innate abilities (healing factor) which had already increased by his level of strength thus mitigating the damage done in accordance to how suped up his healing factor is. The Hulk regenerated from being reduced to pieces of flesh and a skeleton. Neither of these guys are going to do that.
I have no doubt that his strength could far exceed Captain Marvels in a matter of seconds, because CM like it or not is in Gladiator's power tier, while the Hulk easily makes it into Annihli-Hulk's weight class at the moment of conflict (as seen on panel), while retaining the rights by trademark to exceed even that level of strength. How well do you think that CM would do against Annihili-Hulk, cosmic rod and all? He beat Gladiator like a slave. He wasn't able to drop the Hulk though, even while being slower than Gladiator.
Sorry man but the Hulk would stomp.
