Captain America vs. Rorschach/Nite Owl

Started by Silent Master20 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
No they wouldn't. They wouldn't even be KOed. All these characters have superhuman durability.

Prove they have the durability needed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove they have the durability needed.
Rorschach tanked being kicked in the head while on the ground and was sent flying over 10ft.
He had no visible damage due to that kick when he took off his mask later. He shook it off as if it was nothing. That kick was probably 100 times stronger than any kick a human could do.

That's nice, now provide the proof I asked for.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That's nice, now provide the proof I asked for.

That's the durability needed. The ability to withstand an attack more than 100 times stronger than any human and not be damaged.

Can Cap even strike with a force more than 100 times stronger than any human?

No, it's not. now actually post the proof I asked for.

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Originally posted by h1a8
That kick was probably 100 times stronger than any kick a human could do.

lol @ pulling out these figues out of your ass.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not. now actually post the proof I asked for.
Prove that it's not. Provide evidence that Cap can strike significantly harder than that.

You made the claim, therefore you have to provide proof. so start providing it and remember that Cap has much better strength feats than Ozy. so feats of them surviving attacks from Ozy isn't proof.

Originally posted by Inhuman
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lol @ pulling out these figues out of your ass.

Well if I'm wrong then I'm not too far off. A human's head would come off before they get sent flying like that. So assuming an indestructible human then how much force do you think is needed? It's definitely superhuman by a long shot.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You made the claim, therefore you have to provide proof. so start providing it and remember that Cap has much better strength feats than Ozy. so feats of them surviving attacks from Ozy isn't proof.

I did. Now it's you to prove that it's not proof.

Otherwise, I can just troll and always say that your proof is not proof without even saying why.

Ozy leg kick is a striking feat beyond Cap's feats.

Ozys 30 feet leap through the air is probably better.

You didn't provide proof, you listed him surviving an attack from a character that is weaker than Cap. Proof is examples of him surviving attacks from someone/thing as strong or stronger than Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You didn't provide proof, you listed him surviving an attack from a character that is weaker than Cap. Proof is examples of him surviving attacks from someone/thing as strong or stronger than Cap.

How can he be weaker than Cap in striking power when he has a feat greater than Cap's striking feats. What striking feats do you think Cap has that's greater?

Even so, if someone can tank an attack without any damage then they certainly can do so to a stronger attack. So even if Cap strikes harder then how would that prove he can kill or ko them with a single strike?

Cap has better strength feats, thus Cap is stronger.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap has better strength feats, thus Cap is stronger.

We are talking about striking feats. Let's no derail the argument. What feats show that Cap is stronger in striking?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Given his feats; if Cap actually hit them with his full strength, they'd be killed.
actually you made the claim first. Prove he cam kill them with one shot

Given that Captain America high end feats are far better than Ozy's, my point stands even if my wording was slightly exaggerated.

Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about striking feats. Let's no derail the argument. What feats show that Cap is stronger in striking?

Punching through a submarine window? Kicking an armored jeep? Punching Ironman strong enough to knock IM back?

None of those show that though. Ozy never tried those things... As I've pointed out... if he can kick a guy that hard and far... He can kick a jeep and move it... of that there can be no doubt. Maybe Cap can punch harder, who knows, but good luck proving that. Let's say for a moment that he can punch somewhat harder... that doesn't make up for the huge difference in speed and reactions. He can be the hardest puncher in the world, that isn't going to matter if he can barely land anything.

If you want to claim that Ozy can replicate those feats, prove it.

Good grief, now people are arguing Ozy is as strong as Captain America? Is there no end to the madness around here?