Captain America vs. Rorschach/Nite Owl

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. If you want to use scientific formulas then you'd better come up with one for Ozy's kick because that's the way these things work. You can't just spew random numbers and expect us to believe you.

In a previous post you claimed that Rosch's head not getting torn off was due to his durability and not Ozy's strength. Which I actually agree with (somewhat). Yet here you're claiming it's proof of Ozy's strength?

h1 believes that his opinion = fact.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. If you want to use scientific formulas then you'd better come up with one for Ozy's kick because that's the way these things work. You can't just spew random numbers and expect us to believe you.

In a previous post you claimed that Rosch's head not getting torn off was due to his durability and not Ozy's strength. Which I actually agree with (somewhat). Yet here you're claiming it's proof of Ozy's strength?

It's both. Ozy's strength and Rorschach's durability. Ozy kicked with the force to tear a human head off and Rorschach survived it.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's both. Ozy's strength and Rorschach's durability. Ozy kicked with the force to tear a human head off and Rorschach survived it.

Or Rosch could have just been rolling with the hit, which majority of trained fighters instinctively do.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Or Rosch could have just been rolling with the hit, which majority of trained fighters instinctively do.

He was sent flying. If he rolled then that means the kick was even more powerful than what we saw.

How the hell do these threads go on like this. You already said Cap wins.

Because we are arguing a Different point.
Silent claimed that Cap can kill these two with a single blow.
I disagreed because one of them survived a strike harder than any strike Cap ever shown on screen WITHOUT ANY DAMAGE.

He could kill them instantly if he chose to.

He has the strength to go up against Ironman and win the majority in H2H after Tony was bloodlusted for finding out Bucky killed his parents.

If he can throw a bike hard enough to crumple a jeep, and split a log with his bare hands, I think a human skull wouldn't do well against a full force Cap hit. The same hits that a much weaker Red Skull used to dent solid steel.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He could kill them instantly if he chose to.

He has the strength to go up against Ironman and win the majority in H2H after Tony was bloodlusted for finding out Bucky killed his parents.

Anyway, Cap has no striking feats that surpasses Ozy's kick on Rorshach. A kick like that had the force to tear a human's head, yet Rorshach was fine afterwards.

So for me to believe Cap can kill, let alone ko, Rorshach in one hit is asinine and retarded.

Originally posted by KingD19
If he can throw a bike hard enough to crumple a jeep, and split a log with his bare hands, I think a human skull wouldn't do well against a full force Cap hit. The same hits that a much weaker Red Skull used to dent solid steel.

Shitty feats in comparison to the force Rorshach took without ANY DAMAGE.

Originally posted by h1a8
Going up against IM isn't a strength feat.
Terrible logic. We go by individual feats of strength to prove strength and not who someone fought. That's plain stupid logic.

Anyway, Cap has no striking feats that surpasses Ozy's kick on Rorshach. A kick like that had the force to tear a human's head, yet Rorshach was fine afterwards.

So for me to believe Cap can kill, let alone ko, Rorshach in one hit is asinine and retarded.

I would watch who you are calling stupid and retarded if I was you. I would also calm the fck down if I was you. This isn't real life btw, so what you are arguing is inherently stupid and retarded.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I would watch who you are calling stupid and retarded if I was you. I would also calm the fck down if I was you. This isn't real life btw, so what you are arguing is inherently stupid and retarded.

I wonder if you really are stupid. Seriously!

If you read my post, no where did I call you stupid. I called your argument and logic stupid. Which it is.

Here's my post again. Read carefully.

Originally posted by h1a8
Going up against IM isn't a strength feat.
Terrible logic. We go by individual feats of strength to prove strength and not who someone fought. That's plain stupid logic.

Anyway, Cap has no striking feats that surpasses Ozy's kick on Rorshach. A kick like that had the force to tear a human's head, yet Rorshach was fine afterwards.

So for me to believe Cap can kill, let alone ko, Rorshach in one hit is asinine and retarded.

I'm extremely calm dude

I didn't even make an argument.

Originally posted by h1a8
Shitty feats in comparison to the force Rorshach took without ANY DAMAGE.

Yet Rorshach got taken down by a bunch of street cops. Cap took out a bunch of shield agents.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yet Rorshach got taken down by a punch of street cops. Cap took out a bunch of shield agents.

Yet Rorshach didn't get any damage from a hit that can tear a human's head clear off.

I and everyone agrees that Cap wins this. But I disagree that Cap can kill Rorshach with a single blow, especially looking at the punishment he took without being koed. That's the only thing I'm arguing here, nothing else.

I'm pretty confident Cap could one shot kill them if given the opportunity.

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm pretty confident Cap could one shot kill them if given the opportunity.

That's not a striking feat. And the force to do that is less than the force Rorschach got kicked with.

Originally posted by h1a8
Going up against IM isn't a strength feat.
Terrible logic. We go by individual feats of strength to prove strength and not who someone fought. That's plain stupid logic.

Anyway, Cap has no striking feats that surpasses Ozy's kick on Rorshach. A kick like that had the force to tear a human's head, yet Rorshach was fine afterwards.

So for me to believe Cap can kill, let alone ko, Rorshach in one hit is asinine and retarded.

Lol. Punching through a submarine window and kicking an armored vehicle is far beyond any striking feat Ozy has done.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's not a striking feat. And the force to do that is less than the force Rorschach got kicked with.

Action stars kicking punching people 5-15 feet away is something that happens often. Specially guys like Arnold, Van Dam in movies. I dont know where you get the idea its some uber feat. And its more laughable that you think that Ozy kicking Rorsch is better than countless of Caps feats.

I have H1 on ignore for obvious reasons, but after seeing his quote, I have to ask how he knows that pulling a log apart is takes less force than kicking somebody 5 feet away. How much force does it take to rip a log apart? I'm interested.