^ Except shit that bad only happens to Maul. Certainly never happens to Vader.
Originally posted by Unbowed
^I like Maul as much as anyone but Filoni made it clear multiple times that he considers Vader to be stronger than Maul.Now you can debate the issue of author intent or whether Filoni has the right to make that decision, or if we should even take it seriously outside of the show(personally I always thought he was a dickhead). But as far as Rebels goes, it's pretty much a done deal. Best to just accept it and move on, imo.
This.
But Quanchi doesn't really know what's best for him, otherwise he'd get himself checked out by a professional.
Originally posted by UnbowedThat is his opinion which is fine but until something happens in canon it's just like any other comic book writer having an opinion outside the canon. It doesn't matter. I accept all canon showings but to say Vader is greater when the two haven't met up is ridiculous. Vader didn't even injure Tano.
^I like Maul as much as anyone but Filoni made it clear multiple times that he considers Vader to be stronger than Maul.Now you can debate the issue of author intent or whether Filoni has the right to make that decision, or if we should even take it seriously outside of the show(personally I always thought he was a dickhead). But as far as Rebels goes, it's pretty much a done deal. Best to just accept it and move on, imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
False. That's also abc logic.
No. I'm not using ABC logic. You just said, that Vader was humiliated by Tano, which I disagreed with.
You also said:
He was humiliated for me few reasons. Firstly he never gained a serious advantage.
- neither did Maul
He did force push her at one point but it caused no damage and didn't prevent her from returning to the fight.
- Maul was even unable to Force push her
Vader has precognition and she had to cover a lot of ground running at him to close the distance so he had ample time to turn around and defend himself.
- ok he screwed a little bit, but he was still in game; Maul screwed against Kanan, and his plans were ruined.
[i]Secondly Vader is more powerful and should no doubt beat his former student. It's a recurring theme with Vader performing far below his expectations.
- assuming, that you're consider Maul as superior to Vader, isn't it a Maul's failure against her as well?
[i] It's like saying Anakin did better against Dooku therefore he crushes Kenobi.
Anakin from his duel with Dooku or operation Knightfall, with pure clarity of mind, perhaps could be able to even stomp Kenobi.
Originally posted by McPMaul didn't fight her for as long and she left the duel.
No. I'm not using ABC logic. You just said, that Vader was humiliated by Tano, which I disagreed with.
You also said:
He was humiliated for me few reasons. Firstly he never gained a serious advantage.
- neither did Maul
He did force push her at one point but it caused no damage and didn't prevent her from returning to the fight.
- Maul was even unable to Force push her
Vader has precognition and she had to cover a lot of ground running at him to close the distance so he had ample time to turn around and defend himself.
- ok he screwed a little bit, but he was still in game; Maul screwed against Kanan, and his plans were ruined.
[i]Secondly Vader is more powerful and should no doubt beat his former student. It's a recurring theme with Vader performing far below his expectations.
- assuming, that you're consider Maul as superior to Vader, isn't it a Maul's failure against her as well?[i] It's like saying Anakin did better against Dooku therefore he crushes Kenobi.
Anakin from his duel with Dooku or operation Knightfall, with pure clarity of mind, perhaps could be able to even stomp Kenobi.
Vader's plans were ruined as well. He was injured. Maul was fine and flew off in a tie fighter. He was in a better position than Vader was by the episodes end.
The duel didn't have enough time to conclude and she fled. She didn't wound Maul.
Speculation. They both have different styles and Kenobi has a intimate knowledge of Anakin. Argue based off facts not speculation. Anakin fought Ben Kenobi and didn't even stomp him then when he was older and shittier.