If Batman is 100

Originally posted by SquallX
Batman is pis incarnate. Unlike Bruce, Steve actually have a Deus Ex Machina that can explain about 25% of the shits he accomplishes, where as Bruce has none, except that he's THE GODDAMNED BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed it for you...

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Originally posted by Supermutant
lol Now you are just saying the same things over in long paragraphs. Also you ask for examples, and I showed them. Your only reply is that basically Croc has some better strength showings. Which is the same thing that I and others have said from the beginning. His strength varies and is inconsistent like Blockbuster, like Solomon Grundy for example.

So I would put him lower than Wolverine based off of lacking consistent strength feats. And the fact that Bane has physically dominated him and broken his arms three time, on and off Venom.

Show scans of Croc grabbing Wildcat and cracking his ribs just from that hold, b/c that didn't happen. Wildcat beat the hell out of him in the cage and beat another big dude after that who created that cage fight. If anything Wildcat strength should be higher on my list, his punching power is impressive.

because you fail to understand that thing. you posted some random low showings for croc, and were trying to lowball him trying to act as if those are showings to rely on. therefor i have stated that even his lows are not that low when it comes to guys like cap and wolverine. as i stated his average and most showings, while lacking in skills clearly show his strength level at above wolverine and cap. tearing off vault doors, flipping cars, breaking thru brick walls, taking a sledgehammer to the face and laughting, cracking wildcat ribs with a hug in the cage fight making him scream and look scared. plenty of showings to easily put him above cap and wolverine in strength. stop embarraccing yourself. once again, bane breaking his arm on venom, and 1 time without is not enough to say he is under wolverine or cap. bane on venom is class 3 ton. bane not on venom either PIS, or on the other side, its more of a durability feat than anything. again spiderman getting his arm broken easily by jigsaw. king shark from DC getting his limbs torn apart doesnt mean he is suddenly weaker than wolverine and cap Lol. as i pointed out before the majority croc feats put him easily above cap and wolverine. you digging up some low showings and trying to present them as anything but low showings is laughable. educate yourself more on characters.

and here is the scan of croc grabbing wildcat and cracking his ribs. educate yourself as i said

Oy. 😂

Originally posted by riv6672
Oy. 😂

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You're in that "i'm not letting this shit drop dammit" mode. Its funny.

Originally posted by riv6672
You're in that "i'm not letting this shit drop dammit" mode. Its funny.

if you got something to add join in. if not, pinching from the side like a 13 year old girl is weak.

Originally posted by Dareangel
because you fail to understand that thing. you posted some random low showings for croc, and were trying to lowball him trying to act as if those are showings to rely on. therefor i have stated that even his lows are not that low when it comes to guys like cap and wolverine. as i stated his average and most showings, while lacking in skills clearly show his strength level at above wolverine and cap. tearing off vault doors, flipping cars, breaking thru brick walls, taking a sledgehammer to the face and laughting, cracking wildcat ribs with a hug in the cage fight making him scream and look scared. plenty of showings to easily put him above cap and wolverine in strength. stop embarraccing yourself. once again, bane breaking his arm on venom, and 1 time without is not enough to say he is under wolverine or cap. bane on venom is class 3 ton. bane not on venom either PIS, or on the other side, its more of a durability feat than anything. again spiderman getting his arm broken easily by jigsaw. king shark from DC getting his limbs torn apart doesnt mean he is suddenly weaker than wolverine and cap Lol. as i pointed out before the majority croc feats put him easily above cap and wolverine. you digging up some low showings and trying to present them as anything but low showings is laughable. educate yourself more on characters.

and here is the scan of croc grabbing wildcat and cracking his ribs. educate yourself as i said

Like I showed you in the other thread that was not Ted Grant. You really need to stop b/c Ted stomp a mudhole in Croc and has never had a problem beating him down quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_(comics)#Hector_Ramirez

Also Bane is more than class 3 on venom. A lot of things you state are just very wrong.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Like I showed you in the other thread that was not Ted Grant. You really need to stop b/c Ted stomp a mudhole in Croc and has never had a problem beating him down quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_(comics)#Hector_Ramirez

Also Bane is more than class 3 on venom. A lot of things you state are just very wrong.

i already pointed out that the scan was my person check on your knowledge. however it still doesnt change the fact killer croc can just crush someone. again you did not address my entire point and post, and chose to run away with the scan excuse. address the things i stated in my previous post.

bane on venom more than class 3 tons? feats? evidence?

Originally posted by Dareangel
i already pointed out that the scan was my person check on your knowledge. however it still doesnt change the fact killer croc can just crush someone. again you did not address my entire point and post, and chose to run away with the scan excuse. address the things i stated in my previous post.

bane on venom more than class 3 tons? feats? evidence?

1. lol You must possess knowledge of Wildcat before you can attempt to check mines or anyone else's for that matter.

2. Furthermore if that laughable excuse was even a real attempt this wouldn't even be the thread for it. Killer Croc vs Wildcat was being discuss in the other thread. So you saw an image of Croc crushing someone in a Wildcat suit an assume it was Ted Grant, much too your shame.

3. Who said Killer Croc can't crush someone? Against an inexperience no-name, even Croc can't job all the time.

4. lol Why would I run away when I am having so much fun loling at your numerous errors and blatant mistakes?

5. Everything else you continue to bring up has already been address. Whatever level you want to put Croc's strength go ahead its mostly subjective anyway, and who really cares about Croc.

6. About Bane, be careful going to that thread though, b/c you might actually learn something.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t613206.html

Originally posted by abhilegend
And Batman twoshotted Grundy who was shrugging off attacks from Gotham and Gotham Girl in the same comic.
And Batman can kick doors meant to survive nuclear blasts and break them.

If all you have is random strength feats, Batman can match almost any strength feat Cap has.

Punching a super human being with varying strength levels vs. real world strength feats aren't comparable items. Caps threw his shield clean through and 18 wheeler, through the back of the trailer, through the engine and exiting through the grill. That's clear enhanced meta shit.

Originally posted by Dareangel
i see. think about it as rhino. we all know rhino is like what, class 80? but he gets beat up by Cap and whos not. so i understand why its hard to think of him as strong. the writers should remember there is such thing as power levels and try to overcone the urge to just show the good guys kick the bad guys ass.

Class 90, and yes, his fight with CAP was utterly ridiculous. Throwing that out, Cap would be no less than 350 on his scale and that's being generous.

Originally posted by Dareangel
chocking him out is not about strength but technique. you can chock out a stronger opponent. still you believe wolverine and cap are stronger than him. you think wolverine and cap cant be chocked out with the right technique by someone with the strength of two face? let it be reminded some of the best MA fighters in marvel have average human strength. its not the strength but the technique. of course you wont seehulk getting chocked out like that, but i dont think its a feat that pust his strength below wolverine or cap.

the ropes thing? how many times did we see wolverine tied up? of course there are feats where wolverine breaks chains. but there are other showings where he is easily tied up with a single rope. i think both cap and wolverine would be stuck if they would be tied up by their nack, arms, legs with several knots at each. no tearing thru that.

actually we see croc overpower zsasz if anything.

bane breaking his arm on juice is nothing amazing since bane on juice is stronger than him. bane on juice is a super human who can lift like 3 tons easily.

yeah killer croc has lower showings like the ones you posted and some higher and much higher. but overall i dont see any of them putting him at strength levels below the average strength showings of wolverine and cap. he sucks at fighting that for sure. i always saw him as a less skilled sabretooth to be honest. at least as far as strength goes. both have good strength feats while at times they seem to be just slightly above human strength.

What do you mean it's not "about" strength? Are you telling me a healthy 10 year old with great technique could successfully choke out a grown man who doesn't want to be choked out? A big strength deifference is a much bigger consideration than technique, it's not even close.

Originally posted by Supermutant
1. lol You must [b]possess knowledge of Wildcat before you can attempt to check mines or anyone else's for that matter.

2. Furthermore if that laughable excuse was even a real attempt this wouldn't even be the thread for it. Killer Croc vs Wildcat was being discuss in the other thread. So you saw an image of Croc crushing someone in a Wildcat suit an assume it was Ted Grant, much too your shame.

3. Who said Killer Croc can't crush someone? Against an inexperience no-name, even Croc can't job all the time.

4. lol Why would I run away when I am having so much fun loling at your numerous errors and blatant mistakes?

5. Everything else you continue to bring up has already been address. Whatever level you want to put Croc's strength go ahead its mostly subjective anyway, and who really cares about Croc.

6. About Bane, be careful going to that thread though, b/c you might actually learn something.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t613206.html [/B]

1. as pointed out earlier i wanted to see if you even know what you are talking about as simple as it is.

2. see above(you sure use a lof of space to say the same thing)

3. only pointing out its a strength feat

4. well you tell me why you run away from my argument and still refuse to address my argument not only in this thread, but also in the wildcat thread.

5. i already pointed out that you bringing several lows, which some of them consist of him having crappy skills in the first place, rather than his strength , doesnt back up your biased claim that he should be noted as lower than wolverine and cap in strength. i pointed out that his majority and average are above. just because it is hard for you to see him stronger, because of the fact he is a jobber, doesnt take away from his feats. at his average and normal he is above wolverine and cap. i dont see them ripping off vault doors , breaking brick walls for fun, lifting cars and taking sladgehammer to the face with a smile. croc is stronger than them. he is one of the worst fighters out there but he is stronger.

6. dont see here anything above 3 tons. his best feat over there is tossing a car. its an average car that weights around 2 tons perhaps. as i pointed out nothing above 3 tons.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What do you mean it's not "about" strength? Are you telling me a healthy 10 year old with great technique could successfully choke out a grown man who doesn't want to be choked out? A big strength deifference is a much bigger consideration than technique, it's not even close.

a 10 years old wont have enough strength to perform a choke. a teen that already has the strength to perform a choke yes. if he gets the technique right he will choke you out if you wont try to break his hold as simple as that. you dont see croc trying to break free and fail. you see him just stand there. it only proves he needs to breath and it doesnt matter how much he can lift.

Originally posted by Dareangel
if you got something to add join in. if not, pinching from the side like a 13 year old girl is weak.

In other words, suck it. 🙂

Originally posted by Dareangel
a 10 years old wont have enough strength to perform a choke. a teen that already has the strength to perform a choke yes. if he gets the technique right he will choke you out if you wont try to break his hold as simple as that. you dont see croc trying to break free and fail. you see him just stand there. it only proves he needs to breath and it doesnt matter how much he can lift.

Okay then, thanks. You proved the biggest factor is STRENGTH like I said. A teen is going to be closer to an adult in strength if not stronger in some cases.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Okay then, thanks. You proved the biggest factor is STRENGTH like I said. A teen is going to be closer to an adult in strength if not stronger in some cases.

no its not about strength. its about having a minimal level of being able to pput pressure on the throat. after that bring me the worlds strongest man and a teen still will be able to choke him out the same way.

KG Beast has to be about a 1,000. Maybe even 9,000. Just from that awesome name alone. You get it..he's from the KGB, but he is ALSO beastly! Game. Set. Match.

If this person ever becomes a werewolf we're looking at potentially the best character ever created.

^^^agreed!