The greatest failures among SW characters

Biggest failures for me would be: #1 Anakin Skywalker / #2 Count Dooku / #3 Revan / #4 Darth Malak / #5 Yoda

Why isn't Yoda higher Beni.

He redeemed himself in small ways by training Luke tbh.

Maul always reminds me of that Ecclesiastes quote:

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

Imagine how strong Maul would have been with his body whole and another decade of being Sidious' apprentice under his belt.

I doubt even "zone Anakin" could have taken him.

Oh, talking about someone's potential and bringing up enraged Anakin is always going to be invalid.

Originally posted by JKBart
Oh, talking about someone's potential and bringing up enraged Anakin is always going to be invalid.

Maul and Revan.

Edit: Grievous as well.

Originally posted by JKBart
Oh, talking about someone's potential and bringing up enraged Anakin is always going to be invalid.

Though the whole concept of "zone Anakin" came exclusively from Stover, and as good as the novelization was, he was very prone to exaggeration and hyperbole.

Sidious was an event horizon and a black whole, Yoda was a fountain of light, Dooku summoned power from the entire universe, Mace was a superconductive loop etc.

All those things never had any basis in the movies. Anakin got enraged and beat Dooku, but that's all that happened. He didn't become some mythic unbeatable warrior(as his later fight with Kenobi proved).

Just like Mace showed extraordinary resilience in deflecting Sidious' lightning, but that's all. He didn't became a complicated metaphysical deux ex machina against Dark side users.

Yeah, Maul never got near his full potential. In the force at least. Without augmentation at a young age he was moving faster than people could see but with augmentation he gets beaten by Kanan Jarrus? Using that, he should be able to speed blitz low level knights like Kanan with the force... Filoni is disappointing

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Yeah, Maul never got near his full potential. In the force at least. Without augmentation at a young age he was moving faster than people could see but with augmentation he gets beaten by Kanan Jarrus? Using that, he should be able to speed blitz low level knights like Kanan with the force... Filoni is disappointing

First problem, mixing Canon and Legends. Rebels is strictly a Canon source, it isn't mixing with Legends material.

Plus the Canon is turning characters around clearly anyway.

Sorry Zen

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
It should still be somewhat taken into consideration.

No it shouldn't. At this point, it's little more than glorified fan fiction.

Why are you apologizing?

All I'm saying is, is that Rebels isn't mixing Legends material as it is strictly Canon material. So you can't really bring up Maul's younger days, when there hasn't been anything regarding those days in Canon, because this is what Rebels is following, it isn't some weird hybrid Canon/Legends thing like TCW is...(ugh that still annoys me.)

Kill Filoni and remove all clips from TCW/Rebels on the net? Then start a TV Series about the Exar Kun War with some intelligent people in charge. Solved

Originally posted by Unbowed
Maul always reminds me of that Ecclesiastes quote:
When you think about it, his potential was truly amazing. Even with is body(and potential) cut in half while he was barely out of his 20s and after spending a decade as a mad man, in a very short time he was still able to rival someone like Dooku, who was among the biggest prodigies the Jedi ever saw, a man with a lifetime of experience as a Force user.

Imagine how strong Maul would have been with his body whole and another decade of being Sidious' apprentice under his belt.

I doubt even "zone Anakin" could have taken him.

Doubtful. Sidious was already courting Dooku prior to Maul's defeat and had even made Dooku a "Darth". It seems likely that Maul would have been replaced quite soon.

Courting him yes, but he only turned him to the dark side after Maul's death. And there was never any indication Sidious sought to use him as anything more than a pawn.

He was named Darth Tryanus prior to Maul's death... N other words, Sidious had already converted him into a Sith.

According to what source? In Darth Plagueis he still doesn't even know Palpatine is the Sith Lord by the end of TPM. Another source has Palpatine ruminating on the nature of his next apprentice after Maul was killed.

Maul can't even tank a bike explosion, what chance does he have of being Palpatine's succersor? LMAO