Originally posted by carver9
The Hulk needed assistance to get him outside of space because he couldn't jump that high. The rest was all him as stated in the comic. His STRENGTH is what destroyed the asteroid, he just couldn't make it to the asteroid. Using your train of thought, they could've thrown Wolverine up there to destroy an asteroid twice the size of Earth. Think bro, THINK.
Yes I am thinking. What I'm thinking is they wanted someone strong because they could add that persons own strength to the force of the propelling technology. If Wolverine was a Class 100 then sure they could have thrown him too.
You are the one who isn't thinking because nobody has said strength wasn't a factor, what has been said is it wasn't 100% Hulk's own strength. Nobody has said Hulk had nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes I am thinking. What I'm thinking is they wanted someone strong because they could add that persons own strength to the force of the propelling technology. If Wolverine was a Class 100 then sure they could have thrown him too.
You're right on point, strong enough. The propellers did little as what was stated in the comic...Hulk strength did the work which was stated in the comic.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Star level jumps FTW.😂
Again. You are nitpicking to discredit a cheese feat. You might as well call into question Sif jumping and then treading on a fleet of ships and demons moving ftl. Heck why don't you question how Thor, Bill, and Sif are speaking in the vacuum of space.
Surtur blew up the core of the Burning Galaxy.
http://i.imgur.com/Bbdgz1C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/luF6O3b.jpg
Out of which sprang his massive portal that dwarfed surrounding celestial bodies.
And further corroborated in BRB's own book where the portal was described as an exploding Sun. So at the very least it was star sized and a massive one at that judging by how it dwarfed surrounding suns and other celestial bodies.
Originally posted by Galan007
Section IV: DurabilityBill wakes up in the middle of a Sun about to go nova, and casually flies out of it, none the worse for wear:
And just to reiterate the space cheese from Simonson, Surtur himself at one point dwarfed stars.
The Burning Galaxy is where Beta Ray Bill hails from. Note. It's not a tiny galaxy from some microverse filled with tiny suns and planets. It is a regular galaxy for all intents and purposes. The Korbinites built their cities among stars/suns and towards the galactic core where stars are usually most concentrated.
http://imgur.com/Pnnp9OV.jpg
http://imgur.com/OXpAvSA.jpg
All these claims about reality warping, chariot sizes, artists being lazy, jumping stars, etc. etc. are being thrown out there just to see which one sticks. Usually happens when each excuse is too flimsy to stand on and just reeks of severe butthurt.
So Ahbi. I think I'm going to go ahead and claim that Brainiac's ship wasn't that big at all as shown here amirite?
http://i63.tinypic.com/2199zdw.jpg
As if my earlier examples weren't enough, how about here where the ship itself isn't much larger than Superman? 😂
Heck Supes must be the size of a moon at this point amirite?
http://i67.tinypic.com/357plqc.jpg
Moral of the story boys and girls. Space cheese it happens. Get over the butthurt.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They jumped off a chariot pulled by goats that can travel a ridiculous multiples of lightspeed. Now you are asking how they can easily travel large distances? 😬
No, I'm simply showing what the writer had in mind. You are simply going by the art as the portal being larger than stars when it is nowhere mentioned.
I took the art and dialogue both in mind and the portal wasn't that big.
Again. You are nitpicking to discredit a cheese feat. You might as well call into question Sif jumping and then treading on a fleet of ships and demons moving ftl. Heck why don't you question how Thor, Bill, and Sif are speaking in the vacuum of space.
Red herrings as usual.
Good to know.
Surtur blew up the core of the Burning Galaxy.
http://i.imgur.com/Bbdgz1C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/luF6O3b.jpgOut of which sprang his massive portal that dwarfed surrounding celestial bodies.
And where is this "dwarfing" mentioned?
All you have is one shot of the portal where its shown large compared to Thor and Bill and the stars are in background.
And further corroborated in BRB's own book where the portal was described as an exploding Sun. So at the very least it was star sized and a massive one at that judging by how it dwarfed surrounding suns and other celestial bodies.
What The? Those demons who had chased Bill from his home were NOT the same from that portal.
And those came from an exploding sun as you so graciously stated. That portal is not a sun.
And just to reiterate the space cheese from Simonson, Surtur himself at one point dwarfed stars.
The Burning Galaxy is where Beta Ray Bill hails from. Note. It's not a tiny galaxy from some microverse filled with tiny suns and planets. It is a regular galaxy for all intents and purposes. The Korbinites built their cities among stars/suns and towards the galactic core where stars are usually most concentrated.
http://imgur.com/Pnnp9OV.jpg
http://imgur.com/OXpAvSA.jpgAll these claims about reality warping, chariot sizes, artists being lazy, jumping stars, etc. etc. are being thrown out there just to see which one sticks. Usually happens when each excuse is too flimsy to stand on and just reeks of severe butthurt.
No, those are thrown out because there is not one mention of the portal being that big.
You're just going by art and the subsequent panels and the dialogue made it clear that the portal wasn't that big.
Deal with it.
So Ahbi. I think I'm going to go ahead and claim that Brainiac's ship wasn't that big at all as shown here amirite?
http://i63.tinypic.com/2199zdw.jpgAs if my earlier examples weren't enough, how about here where the ship itself isn't much larger than Superman? 😂
Heck Supes must be the size of a moon at this point amirite?
http://i67.tinypic.com/357plqc.jpg
Except we have explicit dialogue saying that the ship dwarfed the planet.
None whatsoever for the portal.
Moral of the story boys and girls. Space cheese it happens. Get over the butthurt.
Moral of the story is that you are a moron.
Originally posted by abhilegendMeltdown.
No, I'm simply showing what the writer had in mind. You are simply going by the art as the portal being larger than stars when it is nowhere mentioned.I took the art and dialogue both in mind and the portal wasn't that big.
Red herrings as usual.
Good to know.
And where is this "dwarfing" mentioned?
All you have is one shot of the portal where its shown large compared to Thor and Bill and the stars are in background.
What The? Those demons who had chased Bill from his home were NOT the same from that portal.
And those came from an exploding sun as you so graciously stated. That portal is not a sun.
No, those are thrown out because there is not one mention of the portal being that big.
You're just going by art and the subsequent panels and the dialogue made it clear that the portal wasn't that big.
Deal with it.
Except we have explicit dialogue saying that the ship dwarfed the planet.
None whatsoever for the portal.
Moral of the story is that you are a moron.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I'm simply showing what the writer had in mind. You are simply going by the art as the portal being larger than stars when it is nowhere mentioned.I took the art and dialogue both in mind and the portal wasn't that big.
Red herrings as usual.
Good to know.
And where is this "dwarfing" mentioned?
All you have is one shot of the portal where its shown large compared to Thor and Bill and the stars are in background.
What The? Those demons who had chased Bill from his home were NOT the same from that portal.
And those came from an exploding sun as you so graciously stated. That portal is not a sun.
No, those are thrown out because there is not one mention of the portal being that big.
You're just going by art and the subsequent panels and the dialogue made it clear that the portal wasn't that big.
Deal with it.
Except we have explicit dialogue saying that the ship dwarfed the planet.
None whatsoever for the portal.
Moral of the story is that you are a moron.
Let's reexamine shall we?
1. Bill is distraught by what they turned his home(galactic core which housed a concentration of stars) into.
2. Narration states that the portal had replaced the stars which comprised much of the galactic core.
3. Hell Bill goes on further and states that they "harnessed the stars to create such evil(portal)".
4. Art depicts the portal to be massive enough that it seems to dwarf nearby stars and surrounding celestial bodies
5. In Galan's scan, Bill himself described the source(portal) where the demons were streaming out of as "an exploding sun". Yes.. The demons that attacked Bill's people from the beginning are the same that have continued to stream out of the portal and continued their assault. It's head scratching why you would claim otherwise.
Sometimes you don't need the writer to hold your hand on exactly what he or she is trying to convey. Even a 4 yr old can understand what's happening in that scene.
And what do you have to go on? Star jumping? The portal not being drawn to scale in certain angles(especially in close ups)? You should know that there aren't always perfect depictions artwise as evidenced by my examples. A good one Imo Brainiac's ship where it looked like it was smaller than earth in one scan and not much bigger than Superman in the other. Or how about Exitar depicted many times as earth sized in the Uncanny Avengers arc, but looked nowhere near as large when Thor sliced his neck or when Sentry lifted him away.
Wanna BZ this? I say it was massive as in large celestial body kind of way. What's your claim? That it was tiny and nothing larger than a building? You'll get nothing new from me as I've pretty much laid all my cards on the table. Promise. No surprises here.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Abhi...... You would think main the scan alone is enough, but I can see why it's too painful for you to ever admit it.
Painful that you're so hilariously wrong about everything? Because that's the only pain area here.
Let's reexamine shall we?
There is nothing to examine in that scan. The "stars" are in background and far away. Hence, the planets and stars are shown so much closure.
It's a classic art technique to showcase distance.
1. Bill is distraught by what they turned his home(galactic core which housed a concentration of stars) into.
And?
2. Narration states that the portal had replaced the stars which comprised much of the galactic core.
No, that isn't stated anywhere. It is said that there are no stars but a portal.
It means that those glowing orbs are not stars if taken on face value.
3. Hell Bill goes on further and states that they "harnessed the stars to create such evil(portal)".
Yes, solar batteries exist in real world too. No, they are not as big as stars.
Harnessing the power of stars has nothing to do with size.
4. Art depicts the portal to be massive enough that it seems to dwarf nearby stars and surrounding celestial bodies
No it doesn't. Thor and Bill are the same size as those stars. The stars are in background at a faraway distance and are never compared with the portal in size.
5. In Galan's scan, Bill himself described the source(portal) where the demons were streaming out of as "an exploding sun". Yes.. The demons that attacked Bill's people from the beginning are the same that have continued to stream out of the portal and continued their assault. It's head scratching why you would claim otherwise.
That's simply bullshit. The scan States that the demons came from an exploding sun. That portal is not an exploding sun. Simple as that.
Not "as an exploding sun".
Sometimes you don't need the writer to hold your hand on exactly what he or she is trying to convey. Even a 4 yr old can understand what's happening in that scene.
Yes, they can. The portal isn't that big. Thor jumped across it FFS.
And what do you have to go on? Star jumping? The portal not being drawn to scale in certain angles(especially in close ups)? You should know that there aren't always perfect depictions artwise as evidenced by my examples.
Thor jumping and going across portal isn't solely on art. It's stated clearly in dialogue.
A good one Imo Brainiac's ship where it looked like it was smaller than earth in one scan and not much bigger than Superman in the other. Or how about Exitar depicted many times as earth sized in the Uncanny Avengers arc, but looked nowhere near as large when Thor sliced his neck or when Sentry lifted him away.
Those scenes specified how big the ship or Exitar were and hence we can chalk it up to art error.
The portal is never specified as that big.
Keep up the butthhurt though.
Wanna BZ this? I say it was massive as in large celestial body kind of way. What's your claim? That it was tiny and nothing larger than a building? You'll get nothing new from me as I've pretty much laid all my cards on the table. Promise. No surprises here.
I've not stated anywhere how big it was. Just that it was never stated to be bigger than stars as you so proudly claimed.
And a BZ? About what? Get a mod ruling if you are so frothing at mouth.
Do let me know when you want to "start" a pointless BZ anyway. I look forward to thrashing you again.
Originally posted by Surtur
You just said they did "little" which, even a little means you are saying it wasn't all Hulk though.
It's not all Hulk but the high majority is him and destroying something 3 times bigger than earth is...I can't even think of a word to complete this. Add in it was done by one of the weakest Hulks in existence AND, Hulk can jump across space on his own now...
I'm sure you get it.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
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Originally posted by carver9
It's not all Hulk but the high majority is him and destroying something 3 times bigger than earth is...I can't even think of a word to complete this. Add in it was done by one of the weakest Hulks in existence AND, Hulk can jump across space on his own now...I'm sure you get it.
3 times bigger? Where? Scans.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Painful that you're so hilariously wrong about everything? Because that's the only pain area here.There is nothing to examine in that scan. The "stars" are in background and far away. Hence, the planets and stars are shown so much closure.
It's a classic art technique to showcase distance.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And?No, that isn't stated anywhere. It is said that there are no stars but a portal.
It means that those glowing orbs are not stars if taken on face value.
Yes, solar batteries exist in real world too. No, they are not as big as stars.
Harnessing the power of stars has nothing to do with size.
Learn to read man. The massive portal is now what takes up much of Bill's former home.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No it doesn't. Thor and Bill are the same size as those stars. The stars are in background at a faraway distance and are never compared with the portal in size.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's simply bullshit. The scan States that the demons came from an exploding sun. That portal is not an exploding sun. Simple as that.Not "as an exploding sun".
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, they can. The portal isn't that big. Thor jumped across it FFS.Thor jumping and going across portal isn't solely on art. It's stated clearly in dialogue.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Those scenes specified how big the ship or Exitar were and hence we can chalk it up to art error.The portal is never specified as that big.
Keep up the butthhurt though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've not stated anywhere how big it was. Just that it was never stated to be bigger than stars as you so proudly claimed.And a BZ? About what? Get a mod ruling if you are so frothing at mouth.
Do let me know when you want to "start" a pointless BZ anyway. I look forward to thrashing you again.
Originally posted by carver9
It's not all Hulk but the high majority is him and destroying something 3 times bigger than earth is...I can't even think of a word to complete this. Add in it was done by one of the weakest Hulks in existence AND, Hulk can jump across space on his own now...I'm sure you get it.
How many punches do you think it would take Hulk to destroy the Earth? I don't mean a Hulk that has been propelled by anything.
Originally posted by Surtur
How many punches do you think it would take Hulk to destroy the Earth? I don't mean a Hulk that has been propelled by anything.
Not many tbh. He was recently punching Red Hulk in the face and the Shockwaves from his blows were causing seismic activity. Literally shaking the planet to its core (mole man felt the vibrations at the center of the earth). Again, this was caused by him punching someone in the face...wasn't even directly hitting the planet. With that said, Hulk could probably take out earth in a single hit if he wanted.
