Originally posted by UrsumelesYes you did, hold on.
I admitted that Hord is >Kun as duelist? No, lol. Also, I talked about speed, not skill. Lol.
No, but people who are much faster speedblitz people who are much slower.
Naturally. Just a fly compared to Luke, tho.
No they don't btw, they can usually hold off people with higher augmentation using skill.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yes you did, hold on.No they don't btw, they can usually hold off people with higher augmentation using skill.
Examples? Examples for Speed vs Skill would be Sidious vs Fisto and Zone Anakin vs Dooku.
Originally posted by UrsumelesThey say he's an ancient in multiple sources. Btw, it wasnt that thread, it was the Karness Muur one.
Ah, was that when I say that it could be Tulak is the best duelist of the ancients? I am still not sure, if Exar is an real ancient. Also, iirc, I only agreed on Tukak>others of the Tomb.Examples? Examples for Speed vs Skill would be Sidious vs Fisto and Zone Anakin vs Dooku.
Yeah, your examples are right, so I'm not saying they win, but they are gonna be able to hold Luke off so the others can get some shots in, and thats if Luke isn't utterly overwhelmed by the strength of all the combatants' TK at once, which is what they'll probably start off with.
The "how to rank Karness Muur?"
Rage usually gives Force Users an heavy boost, and an non-raged Luke Skywalker wouldn't even be moved by "the Blackhole in the Center of the Galaxy", so I am not sure if a few medicroe(compared to Luke-tbh, all Sith bar Plagueis, Vitate and Sidious are this to Luke)
Tbh, I can see Kun/Pall/Hord defend themselfes for a few strokes against a Normal Luke, but not against a total bloodlusted one. He should be able to kill half of them with TK at once, imo.
Originally posted by UrsumelesNadd?
The "how to rank Karness Muur?"Rage usually gives Force Users an heavy boost, and an non-raged Luke Skywalker wouldn't even be moved by "the Blackhole in the Center of the Galaxy", so I am not sure if a few medicroe(compared to Luke-tbh, all Sith bar Plagueis, Vitate and Sidious are this to Luke)
Tbh, I can see Kun/Pall/Hord defend themselfes for a few strokes against a Normal Luke, but not against a total bloodlusted one. He should be able to kill half of them with TK at once, imo.
Muur?
Backed by all the lesser sith, the raw power of Sadow is crazy, and Ludo Kressh isn't that far behind him.
Originally posted by UrsumelesI think all of these guys could move a Black Hole with greater ease then Kyp an Luke.
The "how to rank Karness Muur?"Rage usually gives Force Users an heavy boost, and an non-raged Luke Skywalker wouldn't even be moved by "the Blackhole in the Center of the Galaxy", so I am not sure if a few medicroe(compared to Luke-tbh, all Sith bar Plagueis, Vitate and Sidious are this to Luke)
Tbh, I can see Kun/Pall/Hord defend themselfes for a few strokes against a Normal Luke, but not against a total bloodlusted one. He should be able to kill half of them with TK at once, imo.
Originally posted by UrsumelesThey could react, its just debris from a falling building, it'd go in slow motion for them, they have plenty of time to put up shields, or just flat-out TK the debris away.
I doubt that they could react. At least not the lesser ones. Lets say, Kun, Ragnos, Nadd, Hord and Muur survived. Two get ragdolled, two are blitzed, and the last one is ****ed. 🙂
Originally posted by AncientPowerBased on him being described as a legendary duelist, taking down Khem Val, single-handedly taking down the Siege of Yn before his prime.
Hord > Kun as a duelist? Based on what feats?
Aiding in the extermination of 1000 Jedi.
Kreia saying that he was the best Sith Duelist ever (as of KOTOR II), and Chris Avellone straight up saying that everything she said was accurate.
Also being an incredible duelist when many true lightsaber masters lived.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
One combines their TK strength with another, and then another, and then another.
There's little precedent for this working in combat, even amongst battle-melded Jedi; regardless, Luke with his superior speed can pick off the weaker combatants before they have the chance to coordinate in such a manner.
Or uses other rather esoteric abilities to aid the group, on too of a bunch of sabers/sith swords at once, witha bunch of great duelists, then yeah, Luke is gonna have some problems.
Which esoteric abilities would be effective on Luke, without causing collateral?
There's also the fact that while Luke is battling one ancient sith, he has to worry about another coming behind him, or on the side of him, or above him, has to worry about TK from powerful force users from all sides, and a repulse ain't doing shit against the Team's combined power.
Or he divides and conquers; blitzes into the middle of them and cuts some down, then uses one as a projectile to hurl into everyone else, etc.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
There's little precedent for this working in combat, even amongst battle-melded Jedi; regardless, Luke with his superior speed can pick off the weaker combatants before they have the chance to coordinate in such a manner.Which esoteric abilities would be effective on Luke, without causing collateral?
Or he divides and conquers; blitzes into the middle of them and cuts some down, then uses one as a projectile to hurl into everyone else, etc.
Sorcery?
Luke isn't blitzing any of the Ancient Sith, they're confirmed to all be great duelists.
Especially while Hord is here, and you know how great Hord is as a duelist.