Ben Kenobi vs Count Dooku

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I don't need to point out why Jedi Power potential is going to exclude the obvious choices of Sidious and Vader.

Force is the Force you fugg.

Until it wont be said otherwise, Ben at this very moment is rusty and passed his prime. His duel with Vader - who actually has no good showings against other Force users, proves nothing. The future seasons of Rebels might change that though.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Although Zoltan's right on Zonakin, as far as the website is concerned. It just mentions Anakin being stronger than the last time they fought and thus being able to beat Tyranus.

I find it funny how Disney have shaved off so much of the continuity yet there still seems to be an innumerable amount of contradictions. Even when they are generally very subtle, used to explain minor discrepancies, a few of them are still significant enough to cause a Butterfly Effect - a fairly small and seemingly insignificant thing that ends up causing lots of conflict. My view is that we don't have to except everything as fact when they leave gaping holes in the plot. I doubt Vader is above Zonakin and there a lot of statements - in Legends at at last - which describe the suited Vader as past his prime.

Pre-ANH Vader is definitely not as strong as Anakin in Legends. In Canon, though, everything points to Vader growing stronger.

Originally posted by McP
His duel with Vader - who actually has no good showings against other Force users, proves nothing.

mmm

The wii versions of the game don't count for shit.

Pretty sure he means Canon. Though you can still have him throwing Ahsoka off the ledge.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
The wii versions of the game don't count for shit.

It's a licensed C-canon game, you don't count for shit.

Just by being the shittest of the 3rd(?) Gen consoles is enough to make it obsolete and less valuable than my opinion on the matter.

The wii version is inferior, yes.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

mmm

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Originally posted by McP
Until it wont be said otherwise, Ben at this very moment is rusty and passed his prime. His duel with Vader - who actually has no good showings against other Force users, proves nothing. The future seasons of Rebels might change that though.

"Who actually has no good showings against other Force Users"?

Lol.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Tempest, you understand that the different cutscenes in the various TFU game versions ( I and II ) contradict not only each other but the novelizations as well?

As for Vader's feats against other force users in Legends he blasted back 4 Jedi simultaneously.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Tempest, you understand that the different cutscenes in the various TFU game versions ( I and II ) contradict not only each other but the novelizations as well?

Lmao.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Tempest, you understand that the different cutscenes in the various TFU game versions ( I and II ) contradict not only each other but the novelizations as well?

This interesting actually considering they milked this franchise dry with a comic, a novel and 3 video game adaptations. Which one is the most correct in terms of Story? I'd say the Novel.

I only take the novel personally since it's the only third person unbiased source.

I will use evidence from the other sources to back up my points though since most people find all versions valid.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Tempest, you understand that the different cutscenes in the various TFU game versions ( I and II ) contradict not only each other but the novelizations as well?

As for Vader's feats against other force users in Legends he blasted back 4 Jedi simultaneously.

I'm aware of the many differences, yeah.

But I suspect you want to discard the Wii version because it makes Starkiller "look bad" by having Vader TK him successfully at various points. Neph and Ziggy want to do the same, but for a slightly different reason: it makes Vader look good.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm aware of the many differences, yeah.

But I suspect you want to discard the Wii version because it makes Starkiller "look bad" by having Vader TK him successfully at various points. Neph and Ziggy want to do the same, but for a slightly different reason: it makes Vader look good.

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*Shrug*

Putting my goals/desires to the side you have to acknowledge they do contradict each other.

Also Emp already confirmed that Starkiller's capabilities are only related to Galen insofar as potential.

Starkiller got ragdolled in 2 game versions, backed up by the Prima Official Game Guide and Sam Witwer. If Syn thinks that the novel never depicting Vader ragdolling Starkiller means he can't and that it overwrites 4 sources then all I can say is...

LMAO.