Ben Kenobi vs Count Dooku

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm aware of the many differences, yeah.

But I suspect you want to discard the Wii version because it makes Starkiller "look bad" by having Vader TK him successfully at various points. Neph and Ziggy want to do the same, but for a slightly different reason: it makes Vader look good.

That's just the thing Tempest. The Wii version has points in it were it makes Galen look good as in far more powerful than it ever depicts him in the novel/game etc ect. What it also has though, are parts where it makes him look not so good. I expect those who want to cherry pick cutscenes feauturing Vader TK'ing his apprentice in the Wii version, will rather like to discard cutscenes where a random imperial guardsmen does the same. Just a thought.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
*Shrug*

Putting my goals/desires to the side you have to acknowledge they do contradict each other.

Of course they do.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Also Emp already confirmed that Starkiller's capabilities are only related to Galen insofar as potential.

wat

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova

Also Emp already confirmed that Starkiller's capabilities are only related to Galen insofar as potential.

Where?

The quote you all use to say Starkiller and Galen are equals doesn't actually say that.

"Galen Marek's clones possess their genetic host's fighting skills, including incredible abilities with the Force." - The Ultimate Visual Guide: Updated And Expanded.

Clones plural. We know for a fact the aberrant clones Starkiller slaughtered did not possess the same combative ability Marek did and going by Starkiller's performance against Vader he didn't either regardless of the clones having his potential or memory flashes. It's noted in the TFUII novelizations that some of the aberrant clones possess abilities and skills to lesser or greater skills then the Starkiller clone itself.

I honestly have great distaste for the clone though I feel obligated to defend him because people still believe his combative ability is related to Galen's own for some reason.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
That's just the thing Tempest. The Wii version has points in it were it makes Galen look good as in far more powerful than it ever depicts him in the novel/game etc ect. What it also has though, are parts where it makes him look not so good. I expect those who want to cherry pick cutscenes feauturing Vader TK'ing his apprentice in the Wii version, will rather like to discard cutscenes where a random imperial guardsmen does the same. Just a thought.

Not only that but the Wii version actually has him ragdolling the ISD rather then simply shifting and guiding it. People don't like to acknowledge that which does not suit their agenda.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Starkiller got ragdolled in 2 game versions, backed up by the Prima Official Game Guide and Sam Witwer. If Syn thinks that the novel never depicting Vader ragdolling Starkiller means he can't and that it overwrites 4 sources then all I can say is...

LMAO.

1 of which is a non canon source.

1 of which is a summary of in game events.

And the other 2 of which don't actually occur as the same event in game but at different points throughout their storyline.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
LMAO.

Can't even come up with a legitimate response. Expected but still disappointing.

You confuse can't with the lack of desire to further indulge your tedious and ridiculous wanking.

I don't see how it's wanking to point out the inconsistencies with taking in game events and cutscenes which contradict each other.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Not only that but the Wii version actually has him ragdolling the ISD rather then simply shifting and guiding it. People don't like to acknowledge that which does not suit their agenda.

I'm aware, in the Wii version Galen literally pulls down the Star destroyer without batting an eye, he also ragdolls Vader in a far more humiliating fashion too, but this is after being TK'd by almost every other character he fights - even Maris brood apparently. In the second game he manages to break Vader's choke entirely and starts demonstrating his own display of ragdolling. So Tempest can speculate about mine and your motives all day and night, that has nothing to do with the objective truth of the matter.

Honestly my Malgus analogy in the Starkiller's Story thread sums up my feelings on the matter pretty well.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Starkiller got ragdolled in 2 game versions, backed up by the Prima Official Game Guide and Sam Witwer. If Syn thinks that the novel never depicting Vader ragdolling Starkiller means he can't and that it overwrites 4 sources then all I can say is...

LMAO.

This.

And no idea where people got the impression that novels are more canon than comics and cut scenes.

It certainly isn't that way with the movie novelisations.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I honestly have great distaste for the clone though I feel obligated to defend him because people still believe his combative ability is related to Galen's own for some reason.

Well maybe because:

1) The "clone" has better feats than the original, and

2) It was never even officially confirmed that the "clone" was a clone.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I'm aware, in the Wii version Galen literally pulls down the Star destroyer without batting an eye, he also ragdolls Vader in a far more humiliating fashion too, but this is after being TK'd by almost every other character he fights - even Maris brood apparently. In the second game he manages to break Vader's choke entirely and starts demonstrating his own display of ragdolling. So Tempest can speculate about mine and your motives all day and night, that has nothing to do with the objective truth of the matter.

There's a difference between getting ragdolled during gameplay and cutscenes. In which instance is Galen being TK'd by everyone?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
This.

And no idea where people got the impression that novels are more canon than comics and cut scenes.

It certainly isn't that way with the movie novelisations.

Well maybe because:

1) The "clone" has better feats than the original, and

2) It was never even officially confirmed that the "clone" was a clone.

1. Their relative performances against Vader and Galen's performance against Sidious disproves this.

2. What?

@Zoltan

You are one of those people, that I respect on this forum. But using TFU's feats for Vader? Really? It's like using CW's TK feats for Mace...

Anyway, I should be more specyfic. Apart of TFU and TFU II, Vader has not good showings against other strong Force users

Originally posted by McP
@Zoltan

You are one of those people, that I respect on this forum. But using TFU's feats for Vader? Really? It's like using CW's TK feats for Mace...

Anyway, I should be more specyfic. Apart of TFU and TFU II, Vader has not good showings against other strong Force users

The Dark Woman, Celeste Morne, Ferus Olin, Clone Darth Maul...

Originally posted by McP
using TFU's feats for Vader? Really? It's like using CW's TK feats for Mace..

You must not even acknowledge Galen Marek's existence.

I remember the days when Syn wasn't around, and we barely ever talked about Marek.