Originally posted by SurturFair enough. But the positive impact immigration has done for your country, over the course of many years, is a point.
But it doesn't make the comparison faulty because I'm talking about how in general this logic is f*cking stupid. Because your ancestors immigrated here doesn't mean you need to be okay with immigration as it currently is. It by no means makes one hypocritical.My point is the situation isn't so black and white that it's valid to say "well we are a nation of immigrants" as *any* kind of defense against someone talking against immigration.
Another shocking immigration video
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fair enough. But the positive impact immigration has done for your country, over the course of many years, is a point.
Yes, but surely you can agree something that has in the past had a positive impact won't necessarily always be a positive impact as the country changes.
Especially as our own population grows and there seems to be less and less jobs here and more and more you hear of businesses moving their factories to Mexico or something.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yes, but surely you can agree something that has in the past had a positive impact won't necessarily always be a positive impact as the country changes.Especially as our own population grows and there seems to be less and less jobs here and more and more you hear of businesses moving their factories to Mexico or something.
Importing people and exporting jobs is the progressive mindset.
This one is really good, debunks all the "facts"
Originally posted by SurturI believe its a question of moderation, immigration was probably less in the past than it is today.
Yes, but surely you can agree something that has in the past had a positive impact won't necessarily always be a positive impact as the country changes.Especially as our own population grows and there seems to be less and less jobs here and more and more you hear of businesses moving their factories to Mexico or something.
Originally posted by BeniboyblingMost of the time. Table 1 of the 2014 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics gives a rundown of the amount of people given Lawful Permanent Resident Status every year since 1820.
I believe its a question of moderation, immigration was probably less in the past than it is today.
It's been about 1 million a year since 2005. But 1905 saw 1 million for the first time. 1907 is third highest on the whole list with 1.2 million. The top year was 1991 with 1.8 million.
As a percentage of the preexisting population, those 19th-to-early-20th century numbers were huge additions. The last 10 years looks like a decrease in that regard.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The video above explains why 1 million a year does not work.
Depends who it works for. Economic growth requires population growth. A lot of western countries have such low birth rates that without immigration the tax paying working age population wouldn't be able to sustain the retired population in terms of pensions for public sector workers.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Another shocking immigration video
Ok Jaden, just watch this so we can discuss your last point.
Lol @ the notion that we don't "need" immigration today, and this justifies the double standard.
We're pretty screwed without immigration on both sides of the ladder; we need more low skilled workers, and we also need more highly technical ones. Just the US population as it is today is not going to win us the global talent war, not when other nations are glad to pick the best and brightest to come work for them.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
YouTube videoThis one is really good, debunks all the "facts"
Actually this guy proves you wrong.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I can't help but wonder how it's always "america first" and not "the american people first".Same with almost any government and country. I think it's telling of a mindset where the GDP is more important than the people, and it doesn't matter if all the money goes to a few select big businesses.
“We’re going to rebuild our inner cities,” he added, saying he will take care of the African American people who have been mistreated. “Together we will put the American people first again.” DJT
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