Originally posted by The Nuul
you should report backfire. 👆
I've been wanting an excuse to ban Backfire for a long time now.
Also as far as the topic goes, as far as I know Trump hasn't even denied calling her Ms Piggy, but has attempted to excuse it by basically saying "Well she got fat and did porn".
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why do you believe every lie you hear about Trump?
He's not done anything to make me think this isn't true.
Besides I don't believe every lie about Trump. There's tons of rumors about him that I don't believe. Like him being a pedophile and what not, I don't believe that one.
Originally posted by BackFire
It's her word vs his word. However he hasn't denied it, and he does tend to call people names, so it's not like it doesn't fit his personality or anything.
You say he didn't deny it, but then what about her creepy ass answer to the questions about her involvement in a murder. "It's all in the past" she says. Even though if Trump called her Miss Piggy that is also in the past, but we can't expect logic here.
Some random chick who may or may not have participated in a murder isn't the most reliable source to me.
Plus the insult, IMO, makes no sense. Miss Piggy wasn't even fat.
What does her answer about her involvement in a murder have to do with him calling her a name? The two things have no connection. Whether he did or didn't has nothing to do with her being a getaway driver in a murder.
Him not denying it does matter. If he didn't say it, he'd like say that. The fact that he hasn't, and instead has gone on various twitter rants about it, and continued to bring it up in interviews shows that this accusation has rattled him a bit, I doubt it would rattle him so much if it wasn't true.
Personally I don't care, I'm surprised this story has gotten much traction at all, but then again, the reason it has is because Trump has handled it so badly.
Originally posted by BackFire
What does her answer about her involvement in a murder have to do with him calling her a name? The two things have no connection. Whether he did or didn't has nothing to do with her being a getaway driver in a murder.
I don't trust some chick who might have been involved in a murder.
Him not denying it does matter. If he didn't say it, he'd like say that. The fact that he hasn't, and instead has gone on various twitter rants about it, and continued to bring it up in interviews shows that this accusation has rattled him a bit, I doubt it would rattle him so much if it wasn't true.Personally I don't care, I'm surprised this story has gotten much traction at all, but then again, the reason it has is because Trump has handled it so badly.
Except no, it's not just due to how Trump handles it lol. It's because it's Trump. The media will focus on him more than the shit the Clintons do. Hilary lies, like..a lot. But hey Trump supposedly called someone fat! She is totally trust worthy, obviously, because reasons.
No it's exactly because of the way Trump handles it. Most of the media focused on how he reacted to it rather than the story itself. Had he handled it like an adult and just either said "I never said that, I stood up for her and blah blah" or "I did say it, that was a long time ago and we all say things we regret sometimes, I should not have said it" then the story would have essentially been over after less than a day. Instead he kept it alive by excusing the idea of calling a woman fat by saying that she's fat and made a sex tape at 3 am on twitter.
I'm not saying the media is not biased against Trump, however in this case I don't think that's a reasonable complaint, Trump did this one to himself and you can't blame the media for covering him exploding on twitter.
As far as the Clintons go, they do lie, but so does Trump, just as much if not more. The difference is she doesn't keep creating controversy for herself every few days simply by speaking. Her lies are essentially "Well Benghazi and emails that were deleted and blah blah", these aren't new stories, people already know about these and have made up their mind about how they feel about one way or another, so you can't expect the media to keep bringing them up randomly when they are old news. The news media is more interested in viewers than getting any individual person in the white house, and covering Trump lashing out will get eyeballs on the screen, and so they will continue to do that. Don't like it? Tough. Trump should stop acting like a child all the time.
But isn't it possible this happened because these utter pieces of shit are always so bias? That he eventually had some kind of breakdown?
I mean, CNN is trying to frame him and say he wants racial profiling. The media constantly attacks him and corrupt Hilary just smiles and waves and we all drink it up.
I'd be going crazy too over the shit people pull. Trump, even though he hasn't exactly been a hermit, isn't used to this much scrutiny and attention I imagine. He had some attention before for his shows, but not on this level and nobody cared much to scrutinize.
I'm not making excuses, but we have to look at why shit like this is escalating. CNN isn't the first media outlet to flat out lie about Trump. But we'll just shrug our shoulders, say he had a twitter meltdown, and then we'll put a corrupt manipulative liar into the White House.
Hilary will be our president, and everybody loses with that. I wish Trump had gone after something smaller, I wish he had started his political career not going for president right off the bat. He could have gotten used to the increase in attention, to the lies and manipulation by the media and liberals, etc.
We've lost, as a country. The one hope we had just isn't ready for the job, and the alternative is just so..ugh, it's bad. It really just destroys morale when we literally are in a lose lose situation. I don't even see the point in voting, it won't change anything. Hilldawg will be in the White House, and it will be 4 more years of the same BS, and people will clap and cheer because hey she's the first president with a vagina.
I've officially lost all hope.
I think it's pretty absurd to blame the media for Trump having a meltdown whenever things don't go his way. I mean the guy is running for President, if he can't handle negative attention and scrutiny from the media then that doesn't speak highly of his ability to deal with world leaders and their propaganda arms that will slander the hell out of him, or world leaders just not respecting him. I mean hell man, Clinton has been able to manipulate him like a puppet over the last week, she randomly brought up the beauty queen expecting Trump to take the bait and he did exactly that and made it so much worse for himself it's incredible.
I have my problems with Clinton, I don't like her and she obviously is extremely shady and does coverups and all that. But at least she will be able to control herself when things don't go her way in the white house. At least she won't be easily manipulated by foreign entities. The way I see it Clinton is the safe choice. She will keep things, for better or worse, how they are currently, for the most part. Where as Trump is just a huge gamble. Yes, it's possible he could improve the economy, and it's possible he could make things better. But I think it's just as likely, if not moreso, that he could make things much worse.
And how is CNN framing him by saying he wants racial profiling. He has admitted as much. He has flat out said he's in favor of profiling. See this is the kind of thing that just makes the complaints about the media so bewildering to me. Trump says something, the media covers it, but then Trump says he meant something besides the words that came out of his mouth, the media continues talking about it, then his supporters ***** and moan that the media is biased. Like they're gonna engage in mental gymnastics to try and come to the best conclusion about what he said. It's not the media's job to sit there and morph what he says into something less stupid.
He didn't say racial profiling, he said profiling. They added in the word racial.
I agree, Trump can't control himself. I'm not 100% blaming the media, but I think it's utterly absurd to think it hasn't played it's part.
But as I said, I've lost hope. Clinton will be president and this country will go down the shithole.
Originally posted by SurturYou think she will put the country further in the shithole than an emotionally fragile retard with no experience in politics?
He didn't say racial profiling, he said profiling. They added in the word racial.I agree, Trump can't control himself. I'm not 100% blaming the media, but I think it's utterly absurd to think it hasn't played it's part.
But as I said, I've lost hope. Clinton will be president and this country will go down the shithole.
Also, he didn't use the "words" racial profiling, but I mean...
O'REILLY: Now, another thing you said that was very controversial is that you want to profile. You want to profile Arab or Muslim men. How would that work?
TRUMP: Well, we have no choice. Look, Israel does it. And Israel does it very successfully.
Now he does try to downplay it like the pussy ass beta male he is, but I mean, like, what do you think he means, lol?
Either he's saying "we should racially profile Arab and Muslim people" or he's a ****ing moron whose statements are too vague and clearly has no idea what he is talking about.