Darth Nyriss vs Act III HoT

Originally posted by MythLord

Yeah, it is obvious when HoT, who is meant to rival/surpass 'Thor, needs the aid of Valkorion to one-shot a squad of non-Force sensitives easily. So it wasn't a one-shot, and there's no quick about it, just that 'Thor manages to finally destroy them after a struggle.

Non force sensitives, right...

Originally posted by MythLord
Even though the quote is only relevant to Kenobi? Hardly. It'd bring the PTers up a few notches, but certainly not TOR, who has a habit of making non-Force sensitives capable of killing Jedi and Sith.

Yeah, it is obvious when HoT, who is meant to rival/surpass 'Thor, needs the aid of Valkorion to one-shot a squad of non-Force sensitives easily. So it wasn't a one-shot, and there's no quick about it, just that 'Thor manages to finally destroy them after a struggle.

Given padawan Annie has fought droid armies, and murked them similarly, and Kenobi stalemated a more powerful version of the character, I'm willing to argue it is within Obi's capabilities to kill squad after squad of fodder.

1. TCW has a habit of making Anakin fail to beat Senators in combat 🙂

2. That's pretty ludicrous. Nox has already done that on her own terms, IIRC 😬

Also, I'm not going to mix KotFE with the vanilla game.

3. I don't imagine the quote's referring to the Barsen'thor killing squads over and over again, lol.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
This is mostly be powerscaling them down from Arcann and Vitiate.

You can do the reverse and scale them up. Especially because there's no threat of Vitiate surpassing Plagueis or Palpatine as per the quotes of supremacy in the latter two's favor.

Personally I think a decent comparison between HoT and Thor is that Thor struggles against Emperor's Children as far as Act III while the Hero takes one out no-prob mid Act I. Thats the one of the most direct comparisons we have imo.

People take novel blurbs as canon?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I think a decent comparison between HoT and Thor is that Thor struggles against Emperor's Children as far as Act III while the Hero takes one out no-prob mid Act I. Thats the one of the most direct comparisons we have imo.

Kira isn't as good as the elites, I don't think.

Not Kira. One of the Children comes to try to take her back to the Emperor and you beat him.

Is there a reason to suggest that he compares to any of the elites? I mean, there are also Children of the Emperor serving as fodder enemies for you on Corellia.

I never got the impression that, apart from Kira and the First Son, the Emperor's Children differ in strength. That they exist as "fodder" for you in gameplay doesn't mean they were easy fights.

Considering they charge at you in groups, that would suggest that the Consular cut down several of them by Act III, which would still outclass that one in Act I for the HoT.

Also, what makes you think there's no level of differentiation? Surely the Emperor would endow different amounts of power to these Children?

Huh? Pretty sure the max you fight of them is 2 at a time, right before fighting the First Son.

Why would he do that? I think it makes more sense for him to give then the same amount.

I distinctly recall being attacked by a group of three, but I could be wrong.

Because then he could maintain a hierarchy within the Children, and use the more powerful ones to execute the lesser ones if they betray him?

Yeah, I think you are. I distinctly remember being impressed that you beat even 2 at a time, hence why its in my respect thread. I'd have sat up if you fought 3.

I don't think they can betray him, he can possess them at will like he does with even the incomplete Kira. The only hierarchy is First Son > rest, its not like they collaborate with each other.

Alright.

They collaborated in Act III, lol. But you're right in that their hierarchy isn't necessarily the same as that of the Sith.