Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Dun Moch is more than just a taunt that cuts too close to the bone, Thor. It is a Sith power that influences the victims state of mind in the midst battle with the dark side, a few eons above the calibre of random trashtalking, which is what I presume ensnared Maul. Nevertheless, a regular viewer can look at the scene with Kenobi, and comparative to everything else he has done, note that it's out of character for him to lash out at anyone... but we can also empathise with him. We all saw Obi Wan watch helplessly as his father figure was stabbed in the abdomen by this horned alien devil-creature, and we're reminded of that scene again when Maul decides to reiterate. For Kenobi, we can look at his behaviour and cast it of as an isolated event, For maul getting caged like a pig is simply another black-mark in the book of slapstick humour.
Again where's Dun Moch mentioned in Canon. Since Canon is what we're talking about when concerning ourselves with "Clown" Maul.
Yes Maul hit a nerve with Kenobi. Again my point is if even Kenobi is susceptible to his opponent clearly purposefully trying to enrage him, then surely a psychotic dark sider with as many issues as Maul will be susceptible to his opponent purposefully enraging him.
But that's just something that can be done if the opportunity arises. It's not like a "oh this is an easy way to beat Maul anytime you like," given Ahsoka never beat Maul in direct combat even in the passage we are talking about, and had no way to mentally unbalance him in their Rebels fight decades later.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Well actually, I pariahed the incompetencies of Maul long before it became a canonical trend and widely accepted by the marvellous folks on KMC, meaning the responsibility rests proudly on my shoulders. And by the way, where do you think Filoni got the idea from..? I'll tell you were - he's been viewing my posts for inspiration.
Of course you did. The Maul haters have been lowballing his loss to TPM Kenobi for the past 17 years. And there's plenty of Maul haters out there. So that hardly makes you some visionary Lol
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Anakin is an idiot and has done some hilariously stupid/cocky things, yes. Anything knew?
Yeah the fact that none of that takes away from him also being a tactical genius and an extremely dangerous foe. You do remember who killed Count Dooku right?
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
The fact that Darth Maul was glaring over his enemy, showering him in sparks, Obi Wan both unarmed and in the most disadvantaged position possible, speaks volumes to how incompetent Maul would have been to go from assured victory, to painful bisection. Surprise attacks aren't an excuse, Maul should have slashed him as soon as Kenobi's body surfaced above ground-level. Anakin might of made a bad decision, but at the very least, it was against a person who could match him for a ridiculously protracted fight, with a justified ending.
Surprise attack's not an excuse, and it was clearly a dumb move, resulting from cockiness on Maul's part. But it's hardly a representation of Maul's direct combat abilities. To see his combat abilities just refer to him killing Obi-Wan's own Jedi Master just minutes earlier. Or fighting on par with both Master and Palawan combined for such an extended time.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Stop with this shit.
So Kenobi was winning the rest of the time when they fought on neutral ground? Really?
Tell me how would that fight have ended if there was no Dead Jedi Master just lying there, because Maul had killed him just prior?
I have a feeling your answer will reveal whose really talking shit.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Well that just goes to show how much your own opinion of Maul has sunk down to the nether-regions. That he is now less of a badass and more of a featurette in a series of lulworthy villains. Yes, Maul is currently on top of the pile when when it comes to bad guys doing stupid shit, overtaking Grievous with missteps that are both worse in magnitude and far more numerous in count. What worse, is that Maul is no longer intimidation or really a threat to anyone. The only people "seriously endangered" by him are the Innocent Bystanders and Damsel in Distress that they occasionally capture, and they end up no worse for wear than if they'd spent the afternoon in a Time Share seminar.
No it's got nothing to do with my opinion of Maul. It's more to do with Filoni's bias towards Ahsoka. Remember when Dark Ahsoka fought off both Anakin and Obi-Wan on Mortis?
You're exaggerating Maul's "lolworthy"ness. If you go back and count, Kenobi's had so many embarrassing moments during TCW as well. It used to be a thing of Filoni's to have episodes where Kenobi just gets his ass whooped (he's joked about it himself).
And people were for the longest time putting Kenobi on par with Kit Fisto at best. But then Filoni eventually gave Kenobi his Uber TCW victory against Maul and Savage, and commended what a skilled duelist Kenobi really is.
Was a similar thing with Grievous, getting beaten by any Jedi he came across. Then getting beaten by Gungans (his all time low). But in the unfinished episode reels and in SOD, Grievous was put back into th seriously dangerous category.
Maul's getting his turn now and everyone's laughing at it. But we'll see where it eventually winds down with him.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Ashoka ran away from the fight, so Grevious' only failing is not having killed her. If it were Maul, that cliff edge would have seen a pair of cybernetic legs dangling from it.
Lol well I admit cliff edges do seem to be a big weakness for Maul when he's facing Padawans.
Still fact is TCW S5 Ahsoka was fighting on par with Grievous. We don't know if ROTS Ahsoka's actually going to achieve that against Maul.
As for running from Grievous, strange thing to mention when she's chose not to finish her 1 v 1 against Maul, and instead entrap him with help 😬