Count Dooku/Ulic Qel-Droma vs. Arcann/Darth Krayt (Lightsabers only)

Started by SunRazer3 pages

Sidious called Maul a rival in a different sense. Kun sensed Ulic through the Force and didn't even know who he was at the time he declared him to be a rival. He could've only referred to Force power.

I said it was speculation that Kun had noticeable advantages in strength or precognition, which certainly wasn't reflected in the fight. I already said I wasn't going to comment on the carbonite freezing, since I don't know exactly how long ago that was before they fought Arcann.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sidious called Maul a rival in a different sense. Kun sensed Ulic through the Force and didn't even know who he was at the time he declared him to be a rival. He could've only referred to Force power.

I said it was speculation that Kun had noticeable advantages in strength or precognition, which certainly wasn't reflected in the fight. I already said I wasn't going to comment on the carbonite freezing, since I don't know exactly how long ago that was before they fought Arcann.

What? Like a political rival? Those quotes for Sidious now referring to political power Novie? 😛

Physical strength? Why? What feats does Ulic have that are on par with bashing down a wall of Mandalorian Iron?

The first part of the above response was a joke btw. I acknowledge that Sidious and Kun were using "rival" in a different sense. I take issue with you assuming the gap between Kun and Ulic was negligible simply because Kun declared him a rival after sensing his power. He shouldn't be far off in terms of power but it doesn't mean he's an equal or that the difference is negligible.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
What? Like a political rival? Those quotes for Sidious now referring to political power Novie? 😛

Physical strength? Why? What feats does Ulic have that are on par with bashing down a wall of Mandalorian Iron?

Actually, yes. Maul was becoming a threat with the forces he had amassed. Obviously Maul wasn't his rival in the Force.

Matching Kun in strength, evidently.

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Originally posted by SunRazer
Actually, yes. Maul was becoming a threat with the forces he had amassed. Obviously Maul wasn't his rival in the Force.

Matching Kun in strength, evidently.

Did you not catch the post after that...

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The first part of the above response was a joke btw. I acknowledge that Sidious and Kun were using "rival" in a different sense. I take issue with you assuming the gap between Kun and Ulic was negligible simply because Kun declared him a rival after sensing his power. He shouldn't be far off in terms of power but it doesn't mean he's an equal or that the difference is negligible.

It said their duel could have gone on for hours not that they were equals in physical strength. Unless there's another quote I'm unaware of...

Team 1.

Team 1, yeah.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Did you not catch the post after that...

It said their duel could have gone on for hours not that they were equals in physical strength. Unless there's another quote I'm unaware of...

1. No, I didn't see that. But I assumed it was a joke anyway, though I still wanted to clarify.

2. It's obvious that Kun had no noticeable physical advantage in their duel, lol.

Why? What made it so obvious?

"Among the Krath, Exar Kun came face to face with another fallen Jedi, whose strength matched his own -- Ulic Qel-Droma."

-- Star Wars: The Old Republic - Timeline - The Exar Kun War

Pretty sure that's referencing their parity as combatants which both of us have already acknowledged. We're hashing out the specifics such as physical and skill advantages.

Thanks anyways Wolf.

Syn, answer GH.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Pretty sure that's referencing their parity as combatants which both of us have already acknowledged. We're hashing out the specifics such as physical and skill advantages.

If it was skill, it would've said skill. Gnost knows the difference between power, strength and skill, certainly.

Since Ulic never got overwhelmed through strength, and Exar is noted as being skilfully his superior, we can only conclude the two's strength is similar.

What makes Exar Kun at that point combatively greater than Arcann?

I'd say capably defeating the Outlander, be it the Wrath, HoT or whomever, tops this.

@Myth - That's probably referring to strength in combat. I don't think Gnost-Dural would be reading up on histories about how Ulic and Exar matched each other in the galactic weightlifting champsionships, lol.

I dunno, Gnost seems like the dude who would.

And Beni, Arcann didn't defeat the Outlander in saber combat, but rather with mass x acceleration.

Not sure why people think Kun at the time he fought Ulic is superior to Arcann anyway. Frankly the Outlander has better feats than him in the base game as the HoT and Wrath. Arcann himself could easily replicate fighting the Kun of that time like Ulic did. And for my money he'd win too.

Edit: Oh god, ninja'd by Beni YUCK!

Originally posted by MythLord
I dunno, Gnost seems like the dude who would.

And Beni, Arcann didn't defeat the Outlander in saber combat, but rather with mass x acceleration.

He had him dead to rights. The point stands. uhuh